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17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby bm303 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:54 pm

I have had CFS for nearly 2 years now, and it absolutely sucks. The symptoms started about two years ago, within months of my extreme exposure to mercury when I had about 6 amalgam fillings removed in one visit with no oxygen/rubber dam. I now understand how dangerous this was, and what an ignorant dbag(excuse my language) that dentist was. Anyways, I am going to visit a holistic dentist in the near future that will take proper measures in removing the last two amalgam fillings I have in my mouth, and see how I feel after that. I also tested positive for EBV about 10 months ago. Could this high exposure be the problem? Or even the remaining fillings? I am getting the final fillings removed regardless, but I would like to know if I should perform some sort of mercury detoxification program. Thanks, you guys are awesome.

Here is my article that I posted awhile back.

chronic-fatigue-syndrome-f1/topic901.html
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby niaholt » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:24 pm

What happened at the dentist could have completely brought you undone. Rick Carson from Prohealth I believe brought some mercury home from school when he was 17 and spilt it and never told anyone. Consequently he believes it caused his CFS. I have been ridding my body of mercury via a homeopath. It took 6 mths and then I turned a corner to beginning to feel better. Not all people improve from detoxing mercury and it is not the panacea for many with CFS but it just helps to take the load off the body.
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby bm303 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:55 pm

niaholt wrote:What happened at the dentist could have completely brought you undone. Rick Carson from Prohealth I believe brought some mercury home from school when he was 17 and spilt it and never told anyone. Consequently he believes it caused his CFS. I have been ridding my body of mercury via a homeopath. It took 6 mths and then I turned a corner to beginning to feel better. Not all people improve from detoxing mercury and it is not the panacea for many with CFS but it just helps to take the load off the body.

I am definitely going to have the remaining amalgam fillings removed properly, but in terms of detoxing from the earlier exposure I am not sure what to do. What are the safest options for detoxing from mercury poisoning?
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby niaholt » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:59 pm

Look at Klinghardt...seems to know heaps of stuff. http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm The other guru is Andy Cutler...many people have conflicting info...a bit of a journey. Might be best to get guidance from someone professional to do it right. Good luck.
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby bm303 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:08 pm

In the last week my symptoms have gotten significantly worse. I haven't been in school for days and I am now very dizzy and feel even more "brain fog" than ever before. I felt as if I were going to feint I was so fogged and fatigued today. I went to the doctor today and he said there was absolutely nothing wrong with me and that he recommends an MRI to see if I have any issues he can't see. Well, I firmly believe my problem is mercury poisoning which stemmed from the remaining amalgam and improper removal over two years ago. Of the mercury poisoning symptoms, I suffer from the following:

loss of memory (particularly short-term memory / forgetfulness), decline in intellect, inability to concentrate, lack of motivation / extreme procrastination, dizziness, acute or chronic vertigo, poor balance, constant fatigue, nasal congestion, blurred vision.

This seems like a pretty extensive list of symptoms and I plan on discussing these with my doctor and getting the remaining fillings removed ASAP and some form of chelation therapy. Some input would really be helpful. Thank you.
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby Ian » Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:06 pm

bm303, you are right. Simply allowing your local dentist to drill out amalgams, is very dangerous, especially if you are already sick. You will expose yourself to massive amounts of mercury. Short term, it would be better to leave them in there and find someone that can remove them properly. You want to find someone that follows the IAOMT protocol, rubber dam etc ..
http://www.iaomt.org/

I'd also advise strongly against chelation. Mercury bonds to the cells in your body (it loves the brain). And if you chelate with heavy drugs you can damage/destroy these cells. Not only that you can mobilise it in the body and instead of leaving the body it might just be dumped in a new location, to cause damage there.

Look up the suppliment selinium. If your problems are being caused by mercury, selenium can really help and it's safe to take. It is not chelation. But what it will do is actually bond to any mercury that might be free in your system. The rest of the mercury won't show up in any blood tests because it's already bonded to your cells ..

While you are on the subject of metal in your mouth. Make sure you don't have any metal crowns, or bridges, or anything metal in your mouth. Basically if you are sensitive to a metal and that metal is corroding in your mouth you will get problems. It's similar to how some woman will get a rash if they wear cheap jewlery, because they are allergic to the metal, yet others won't. Imagine instead of just getting a skin rash, imagine the metal actually leeching into your body via your gut. Dentists use nickle and pretty much every metal in the mouth without any consideration if,
a) the metal is carcongenic (many are)
b) the patient (or victim) has a sensitivity to the metal

I have a question for you. Were you already sick BEFORE you had your amalgams removed ? Then when you had them removed, it made your condition worse ? Or had you just come to the logical conclusion that having poison in your mouth is not a smart move.

The amalgam packs that dentists recieve contain safety sheets with them, and one of the listed side effects from exposure to amalgam is death. Yet they put this into peoples mouths. Just simply amazing.
http://www.robertgammal.com/AmalgamDocs ... rcury.html
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby bm303 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:50 pm

Ian wrote:bm303, you are right. Simply allowing your local dentist to drill out amalgams, is very dangerous, especially if you are already sick. You will expose yourself to massive amounts of mercury. Short term, it would be better to leave them in there and find someone that can remove them properly. You want to find someone that follows the IAOMT protocol, rubber dam etc ..
http://www.iaomt.org/

I'd also advise strongly against chelation. Mercury bonds to the cells in your body (it loves the brain). And if you chelate with heavy drugs you can damage/destroy these cells. Not only that you can mobilise it in the body and instead of leaving the body it might just be dumped in a new location, to cause damage there.

Look up the suppliment selinium. If your problems are being caused by mercury, selenium can really help and it's safe to take. It is not chelation. But what it will do is actually bond to any mercury that might be free in your system. The rest of the mercury won't show up in any blood tests because it's already bonded to your cells ..

While you are on the subject of metal in your mouth. Make sure you don't have any metal crowns, or bridges, or anything metal in your mouth. Basically if you are sensitive to a metal and that metal is corroding in your mouth you will get problems. It's similar to how some woman will get a rash if they wear cheap jewlery, because they are allergic to the metal, yet others won't. Imagine instead of just getting a skin rash, imagine the metal actually leeching into your body via your gut. Dentists use nickle and pretty much every metal in the mouth without any consideration if,
a) the metal is carcongenic (many are)
b) the patient (or victim) has a sensitivity to the metal

I have a question for you. Were you already sick BEFORE you had your amalgams removed ? Then when you had them removed, it made your condition worse ? Or had you just come to the logical conclusion that having poison in your mouth is not a smart move.

The amalgam packs that dentists recieve contain safety sheets with them, and one of the listed side effects from exposure to amalgam is death. Yet they put this into peoples mouths. Just simply amazing.
http://www.robertgammal.com/AmalgamDocs ... rcury.html

I had my fillings removed towards the end of 8th grade approximately 2.5-3 years ago or so(estimate). The symptoms started approximately two years ago I would say, definitely after the fillings were removed. I know I tested positive for EBV about 14 months ago but I had symptoms for a few months before that. I am scheduling an appointment to have my remaining fillings removed by a dentist who strictly follows IAOMT protocol. I have experienced a headache for the last few days since this dizzy spell occured and this is the first time I have had a headache in over a year. I am not 100% sure that my recent episode of dizzyness is due to mercury poisoning, but I know for certain it is NOT helping my cause. I went to the doctor assuming I had labyrinthitis(inner ear infection) but he did not believe that this was the problem. He recommended that if a few days of rest doesn't help my situation I should then get an MRI brain scan. Honestly, I am assuming that this recent extreme episode of fog/dizzyness/just plain "out of it" that I have been feeling is a combination of my normal CFS/EBV symptoms, mercury poisoning, and possibly labyrinthitis. I highly doubt an MRI is going to find anything wrong with my brain considering I have always been a very healthy person aside from EBV and now this situation in the last week. I really appreciate your help, some more information would be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: I understand that you do not recommend any chelation method. Does this also include a chlorella/cilantro detox? I have been taking chlorella and a cilantro tincture, in fact I just did it for the first time about an hour ago.
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby Ian » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:45 pm

You could try chlorella/cilantro detox. But I would avoid the more powerful drugs that are used for chelation. Really they are better suited for people that have had a short term, exposure to a high dose of mercury, not a low level long term exposure.

As for your concern about amalgam, it is well place but you should realise that 50% of amalgams are made up of generally a cocktail of other metals. You could be sensitive to any of these, any of these could be causing your problems. (The toxicity is another issue aside). You can pay for expensive tests to work out which one it is, but really I wouldn't bother. Just remove them all. People that have a sensitivity to certain metals, really it can reak devestation in the body. And sensitivy can increase over time the longer the person is exposed.

Do you have a tongue bar, or do you wear a dental brace ? Again depending on the metals used you could potentially get problems.

Vaccines also contain metals, your favourite one, mercury is often an ingredient, especially for flu shots.
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Re: 17 yr old CFS.... I think I may know the cause

Postby bm303 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:11 pm

Ian wrote:You could try chlorella/cilantro detox. But I would avoid the more powerful drugs that are used for chelation. Really they are better suited for people that have had a short term, exposure to a high dose of mercury, not a low level long term exposure.

As for your concern about amalgam, it is well place but you should realise that 50% of amalgams are made up of generally a cocktail of other metals. You could be sensitive to any of these, any of these could be causing your problems. (The toxicity is another issue aside). You can pay for expensive tests to work out which one it is, but really I wouldn't bother. Just remove them all. People that have a sensitivity to certain metals, really it can reak devestation in the body. And sensitivy can increase over time the longer the person is exposed.

Do you have a tongue bar, or do you wear a dental brace ? Again depending on the metals used you could potentially get problems.

Vaccines also contain metals, your favourite one, mercury is often an ingredient, especially for flu shots.

Yeah I agree and plan on having them all removed. No I don't have a tongue bar or wear a dental brace. I am aware of the dangers of most shots which is why I generally refuse them unless they are required for me to attend school, in which case I have no choice really. I will get the fillings removed hopefully by the end of the week and keep you posted on my progress. I still feel like crap though and am not sure what is causing these recent dizzy spells/extreme fog... hopefully it's the ear infection.
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