I am back to full health.

[lili2701]

well meditation is not the cure, there are many paths to healing, it is just one parameter like diet, supplements, homeopathy etc they're all complementary that's all. I dont think anyone here said that meditation was tha panacea, the point is, it helps greatly as EFT, as supplements, as so many other stuff! We all choose what we want to try to heal, some need to go to the church, others need to listen to music, etc. Homeopathy works because it has an impact on the whole body-physical and emotionnal, it is the contrary of allopathy, that is why it works but it takes time to find the right remedy and it does not work for everyoIne.
I dont believe in allopathy at all anymore for a simple reason: it does not cure you, it fixes your symptoms and not the real issue, the deep rooted one so great it'll go away and come back in no time. look at cancer for instance, so many people have set backs because they dont understand that cancer is more than a fatal illness, there is a meaning behind it, a reason for it to be, they're not victims of cancer, it's only their body telling them sthg, a signal that something is wrong on many levels-spirituality, mental, emotional levels.. well that's my opinion anyway.

[neil25]

Thats fair enuf everyone is entitled to their opnion. Just saying i'm sure i've heard people on here saying that meditation is the cure. I've done meditation myself while it does help a little it takes alot of energy to do it and only masks the symptoms. I know because my mum has been meditating for almost 5 half years now religously everyday and isn't much better than myself. She does say it helps with management of cfs but it has no got rid of her symptoms and she does meditate alot.

I don't believe cfs is emotional at all which is probably why i'm not much of a believer in meditation. I'm still convinced it's all physical. I might one day change my mind but for now it's a physical illness to me. I read that cfs patients in the uk will no longer be able to give blood soon. Articles like this just lead to more evidence that it is a physical problem and contamination in the blood.

The turning factor for myself has been taking homeopathic medicine and getting my fitness back at the gym without these I would never be better. I'm also taking herbal medicine which has been helping a great deal with energy and pain. Would recommend all these in recovery.

[*Emerald*]

Neil if I remember rightly its november that blood donors rules change. Makes ya wonder what the government know about m.e that we dont

[lili2701]

yes for me it's physical too, there's no doubt but my believe is that the deep cause of CFS is partly emotionnal. I have physical issues, you can see it in my blood-viruses, kidneys being weak, deficiencies of all kind, deficiency in immune system so I know it is physical but I think that the reason behind it is partly emotionnal along with stress, bad diet habits, heavy metals etc etc.. But Gupta and meditation are different, Gupta suggest NPL exercises which have nothing to do with meditation. My friend who's religiously following his programme is out and about now and she had physical issues too i her blood etc so it does work..

[neil25]

I'm not saying meditation doesn't help anyone im sure it does. The only thing I don't like people saying is its all down to the gupta program for making them better. There are other factors in getting better I'm able to go to the gym and study part time without using gupta or meditation. I tried meditation but makes me more anxious so had to stop. I feel if you say cfs is emotional others will think you have mental problems which I don't have. I like to think of this as purely pyhsical illness with no known cause just now.

Emerald your right i read come November it is ilegal to give blood if you have cfs. There is something which is hidden here. I can feel it in my viens that there is some contamination I know there is it's just a case of proving it now.

[*Emerald*]

Seems a bit odd Neil if its all in our mind, as many would
have us believe.

Even tho we have no answers at least the illness is being seriously.
Its a step in the right direction

[neil25]

This illness is definitley not in the mind. I'm glad there starting to take it seriously. My doctor thinks its just minor and will go away I wish it would but that isnt the case. CFS is a serious physical illness and without research we can't get much closer to whats going on. I think there seems to be more biomedical research than ever on cfs at the moment. I'm off to see a talk this saturday about the autonomic nervous system disfunction and its relation to cfs should be pretty interesting.