I am back to full health.

[siouxie]

I won't go into the ins and outs of how I discovered this, suffice to say I discovered by chance I was chronically deficient in magnesium ( no, not through a blood test, as the blood test for magnesium will only test the 1% of magnesium that your body maintains in your bloodstream at the expense of the cellular levels of magnesium, so no matter how low your cellular levels your blood test will always come back as normal - I discovered I was deficient by joining the dots when my hypothyroid went back into the normal range after I ate half a kilo of pumpkin seeds (the highest dietary source of magnesium) the night before my blood test, but I continued to feel half dead after that magnesium had left my system.

Once I had Googled 'magnesium deficiency' and realised it produced the symptoms of CFS I looked at the best way to get magnesium into my system. Talking magnesium as an oral supplement is not the answer as you only absorb 20% through your gut. Magnesium injections are painful and expensive. The best way to get magnesium into your cells is absorption through your skin - some people use Epsom Salt baths ( Magnesium sulphate), I use Magnesium Sulphate Paste which I get at Boots the chemist in England - it's usually used for drawing out splinters and boils and costs £1.99 across the counter - no prescriptions needed. You cannot overdose on this stuff. You can also get Magnesium oil which is more expensive but works too - and also helps arthritic conditions. I rub a fingertip of the paste on my skin about 3 times a day and my muscles have recovered, I no longer have head fog, shortness of breath, heart palpitations, dizziness, poor sleep, bruising, fatigue. If you are deficient in magnesium you will be deficient in potassium which we need for cell wall strength and heart health among other things and lack of it may well have been the reason I was bruising. Magnesium deficiency is indicated in a whole host of serious diseases, most of which the drug companies throw very expensive drugs at. I talked to a drug company political lobbyist about this and was told that doctors would never follow this up as there was no clinical evidence it worked, and as drug companies pay for the clinical trials to get that evidence, and there was no money in it for them, they would never do the trials. So we better start working it out for ourselves.

The western world is deficient in magnesium because it is no longer in our soil, because of farming methods, nor our water supply - especially in soft water areas. We need it in every cell of our body to convert our food to energy, fix calcium in our bones, transmit electrical signals in our nervous system and brain. If you are interested in this there is a lot of information out there on the web. One good site is mgwater.com which is a site dedicated to getting the US government to put magnesium in the water supply. You need magnesium for heart health too and some US doctors are beginning to think a lack of magnesium is the cause of heart disease!

You can get magnesium sulphate online in various forms - paste, oil and epsom salts. Good health.

[lili2701]

thank you very much!
i have heard this before, some people feeling so ill and getting so much better with magnesium intakes! I also heard magnesium in blood didnt mean anything, I guess we all should try taking it and see how it goes. I took magnesium in the past but it didnt help much, but again, I took it orally so.. and there are different kinds of magnesium too, there is one recommended but cant remember which one!

thanks for your help! I'm very happy for you!

tittix

[kenvj]

Magnesium Deficiency will cause symptoms of fatigue but it is not CFS.
I tried magnesium, going on to take very large daily doses of magnesium, it made no difference. I continue to take a large daily supplement of magnesium, it is for prostate health, but it has no effect on my CFS.
I think you need to do a lot more study of CFS before making such over the top claims. When you've been around long enough you will know that people on this forum have tried literally all the possible avenues of recovery. You clearly have never had CFS, you have had a magnesium deficiency - be content that you found out what your problem was. Only the Gupta Program and EFT seems to have any real long term effects on CFS.

[neil25]

I agree with Kenjv I have been taking 750mg of magnesium for a year i don't know if it helps much. I think if you have cfs you are defecient in a lot of things. I take quite a few supplements daily probably about 15 a day. Its not cheap but i recently tried not taking them for 2 weeks and had a serious relapse where i was sleeping for 12 hours a day and couldn't move. I'm happy that you are back to full health but i don't think magenesium defeciency is the answer to all my problems. Thanks for posting and letting us know though.

[CS1]

For most if not all CFS is about trauma to the brain

No amount of supplements will resolve this.

Thanks
CS

[niaholt]

I think CS you are to be commended for hanging around this forum and constantly encouraging people. I have found it takes years sometimes for the penny to drop. It is a tho you have to go thru the experience of CFS, peeling away layer after layer as you are search for a cure before you change directions and look are core issues like Gupta.

My question is "how do you find what your core issues are ". Quite frankly I am tired of going to the experts and trying and not getting very far plus the huge expense. When you have had a long life, raising families divorce, naturally you are battle scarred. If you held on to some of the pain/anguish you would go mad.

Nature has a way of diminishing emotional distress or we would not survive. Obviously some form of trauma is held in the unconscious but how to retrieve it....how to identify it to deal with it? Sometimes suggestions can be made to you by a therapist. In these case I have said No that issue I have "put to bed". But have I really?

How do i really know if I have handled that trauma.....my first childs birth for example. I dont want to "create issues" If I wish to look back over my life there would be so many issues that I would run out of beds to put them in. That comes with doing life......the angry nuns that taught me....the parents stc

Just recently someone wanted to start therapy again with me but I have become jaded with the whole process. I find I am much better mentally when I physically start to get well. Issues concern me less.

[lili2701]

I think CS is right, suplements are useless, I mean if you dont resolve the other issues. Me too I have spent years buying dozens of different vitamines etc I was deficient in and well it never made any difference really because I dont absorb them and because my brain makes me not absorb them if you know what I mean. The brain is what controls everything physically, it's not for nothing it is called the second brain too.

I understand Niaholt though because I feel the same. How do you know when u've got over an issue? because it'll always stay with u somehow and sometimes u think u're over a problem and later u realize u're not. I also feel better mentally when I'm better physically I think it's natural. Sometimes the trauma can be minimal too and u wdnt think it could have made u ill. I think EFT is good in that respect because when u start tapping on an issue ur unconscience really leads u where u need to be like it makes links between issues u wdnt have thought of. I once tapped about bulimia then it led to feeling empty inside then to feeling judged then to my dad who is weak and I dont like it then to me who feels weak bc of CFS and dont like being seen as weak etc and I tapped ona lot of things and felt better, emotionnally anyway but all these emotions are a heavy burden on CFS, if u clear them every day a bit more, your cfs shd get lighter and lighter until u get ur life back, checking other parameters of course, like food, stress etc..

[CS1]

I think for some they get disheartened with the lack of progress.
I really wished I had found a coach earlier...It actually appeared as if my results werent that great but results are improving since doing EFT/ guided meditation cds.

Keep up with Gupta or EFT and use some guided meditation CDS daily and bodywork (indian head massage ).


And Keep going!


Thanks
CS

[myhighfly]

Sioxx,

I am so glad you found something to solve your fatigue problem. In another post I mentioned I found my thyroid ended up being the issue. Like your lab tests, the thyroid tests over the past 12 years were wrong.

I disagree with the few people that mentioned that "supplements" are no good. Supplements are no good if they are not what your body is deficient in. I tried different supplements and remedies for years until I found the raw thyroid is what I needed. Sioxx found that magnesium was his/hers. Someone else posted that high content of mercury was theirs, someone else found diabetes was their issue.

Misdiagnosed with CFS or not, telling people not to try or research supplements that have helped others is naive. If it doesnt help you then keep trying...there is something out there that will eventually.

Sorry..not getting on you guys but people that come on this forum to tell their success story should not be criticized. Each testimonial is a tool for someone out there..maybe it will only help one person...maybe it will help many.

[CS1]

Hi

If you feel that the nutritional appraoch will help you - great!

When your body becomes Parasympathetic it will rebalance the immune system and detox system.


Thanks
CS

[niaholt]

I think in many cases so many of us carry SO much debris that it is harder to become Parasympathethic. My US test said I was the worst case of CFS the DR had ever seen, the gut was stuffed and and less than half my bio chemistry was working. He is into Methylation. http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_Th ... tion_Cycle

I know from what he said to me is true........the break in my genetic code like that of Autistic kids, could not distribute my Glutathione to deal with the debris. I took it for 6 mths with no luck. He states until you go around the gene with methyl B12 and folinic acid plus co factors, only then can you detox and other supplements work.....the debris gets cleared in the sewer so to speak and the pipe can drain.

Taking supplements for me was only plugging dykes....it does not solve th initial problem. I was flying ahead with his theroy until I fatefully took a drug that I am still having problems recovering from. My friend followed the Methylation protocol and 1 mth later was walking and eating EVERYTHING.

At the same time I am doing EFT meditation and Gupta stuff to calm the body so it can heal and swing to becoming Parasympathetic.

[CS1]

I think there are toxins however these should get released quite easily once the root cause has been dealt with ie Amygdala / becoming Parasympathetic. When your body has so much stress and your digestive system is turned off it will be difficult to absorb the supps.

I think for most they need more help than just Gupta in the form of Core issues - EFT / increased relaxation through guided meditation,

Now rewatching the AR CDS and back on the programme!!


Thanks
CS

[lili2701]

No Ididnt mean people should not take supplements, of course some are needed and esp when we know which ones we're missing but my point was that if u can't absorb some vitamines because u're intestines are damaged, then somehow it's like filling a bag which has holes in it, so it'simportant to heal the intestines first. So my point is that emotions create illness and when we deal with emotions it can help the healing process. that was just my point. But i'm not saying EFT is enough, it depends on people. Meds/supplements are also necessary.

[neil25]

I definitley know i need to take suppliments. I recently didn't take them for 2 weeks and I was a complete wreck. I was stuck in bed and couldn't move. When i started back on the vitamins I was better in a week. I'm 100% sure that without the supplements I wouldn't be able to function.

Emotinal issues are extremely complex. It's impossible to tell what your subconsious is holding. It could be holding stuff you don't even think about. I'm still not convinced emotional issues are the full picture for cfs. I'm still convinced its caused by a defective gene. Thats my personal opnion i could be totally wrong like most thinks for cfs there isnt really any clear consistent evidence yet.

My doctor is currently carrying out detailed genetic testing for me and my mum as we both have cfs. There may be a link there. I'm not sure but a hell of a lot more research needs to be carried out. Mediation and eft alone won't get rid of the problem permanantley.

[CS1]

People have become totally well!

It takes time and effort....adrenaline is my issue and brain TRAUMA- it so easy i cant believe i spent so long searching!!


Thanks
CS