Gupta Accelerator

[CS1]

Best to work on :

Gupta AR then the accelerator
Emotions - EFT
accelerator - beliefs
interests and hobbies
some spirtuality
Gupta AR


The accelerator will help alongside all the other stuff.

A coach that is familiar with all these approaches is best including the powerful Accelerator.

[alicewoolf]

@Annie: I have spoken to a lady called Alexandra Barton who edited a book called: '50 recovery stories from cfs'. you can buy it on Amazon (or look her up on Google, she has a website with some useful info). She was in a wheelchair and very ill for seven years. She recovered by going on a strict high-protein, gluten free diet. It took about 2 years to get completely well. And she also used sea salt in her diet to deal with orthostatic hypotension and flagging adrenal glands.
I think the think about CFS is to find your 'version' by looking at your main, most troubling symptoms. For example I suffer from pain and all the symptoms of adrenal fatigue, racing heart, emotional lability, craving sugar and stimulants and feeling briefly better and then crashing, so obviously something like adderall might work for someone with lethargy, or clear cut fatigue, but it would be absolutely the wrong thing for me. I have far too much adrenaline circulating in my system as it is!!! That is why I stand by my position on Gupta. I think it may be PART of the answer. No more no less. To claim it is a cure is simply misleading.

[annie]

Thank you for the information on Alexandra B. interesting and encouraging.
Did you do the nutrition side of the OHC? I'm wondering whether to do it as well as the psychology side, though the tests would, I believe, be very expensive and some may duplicate what I have already done. One problem is that I am very limited by how long I can talk on the phone. I would be interested on what you think of it.
Nutrition is such a labyrinth, I was reading some Patrick Holford this morning, he seems sensible but says, I think, that we can't digest protein unless we have it with carbs.....oh dear, confusion!

[alicewoolf]

I spent thousands at the OHC on both nutrition and pyschology. Most of what I learnt was common sense (cut out caffeine, sugar, white flour etc etc) and I could have done on my own. I wouldn't recommend it as it's very expensive. EFT is easy and free. and you absolutely don't need carbs to digest protein!! In fact it's probably better on it's own, though small amounts of rice/potatoes is fine.

[alicewoolf]

Annie I don't want to put you off the OHC, but I simply can't afford it anymore. They have put their prices up and it's exorbitant. Shame really. I think it is a good idea to talk things through with someone if you can find someone who doesn't charge too much.
As regards diet, make it as alkaline as possible (taking into account the high protein element), so lots of dark green vegetables, herbal teas, vegetable juices. Hope that helps

[annie]

Alice, thank you....you have saved me a fortune. I do wish they weren't so expensive, they cut out so many people. Most of us are in a bind, too ill to work and too poor for lots of treatments. Actually there is nothing 'out there' that I'm really drawn too right now. A friend is having Skype sessions with Grace Jones of faster eft, so if she has great breakthroughs I will post it, and, no doubt find the money to do it myself. Good luck with it all.

[neil25]

Im just wondering as there are still a lot of people searching for answers on this forum just like myself.

Has anyone actually got completely better or are they still living with ME/CFS symptoms?

I get a bit confused as people say they have got significantly better from a treatement like gupta or something else. What do you mean by significantly better? can you work part time or full time? what physical activities can you do?

I have got better myself through my diet, supplements, herbal medicine, homeopathic medicine and exercise. I can go to the gym 3 times a week and go to uni part time. What i would be looking to do is work either part time or full time in the future but at the moment it seems impossible due to my CFS. Has anyone got to this stage? i would love to hear how they got there? One of my worst problems is my sleep. I take homeopathic pills for sleeping and do meditation before bed but nothing seems to help.

It's really hard to know what helps with cfs as there is so much stuff out there it can be really confusing. It's a really complex illness. One of my the problems is not knowing what is going wrong in the body. My herbalist told me she can only treat me if she knows what is wrong otherwise she is just shooting in the dark and doesnt want me to waste my money which i can understand.

[Jeffy14]

Im just wondering as there are still a lot of people searching for answers on this forum just like myself.

Has anyone actually got completely better or are they still living with ME/CFS symptoms?

I get a bit confused as people say they have got significantly better from a treatement like gupta or something else. What do you mean by significantly better? can you work part time or full time? what physical activities can you do?

I have got better myself through my diet, supplements, herbal medicine, homeopathic medicine and exercise. I can go to the gym 3 times a week and go to uni part time. What i would be looking to do is work either part time or full time in the future but at the moment it seems impossible due to my CFS. Has anyone got to this stage? i would love to hear how they got there? One of my worst problems is my sleep. I take homeopathic pills for sleeping and do meditation before bed but nothing seems to help.

It's really hard to know what helps with cfs as there is so much stuff out there it can be really confusing. It's a really complex illness. One of my the problems is not knowing what is going wrong in the body. My herbalist told me she can only treat me if she knows what is wrong otherwise she is just shooting in the dark and doesnt want me to waste my money which i can understand.

Neil is your sleep problem linked to anxiety or not?

[neil25]

Not really i do sometimes get anxious about not sleeping and feeling rubbish the next day. I wouldnt say anxiety is a big problem though. It's more like my brain won't shut down like i'm physically unable to sleep. hard to describe. Whenever i do sleep i wake up in the middle of the night.

[Jeffy14]

Not really i do sometimes get anxious about not sleeping and feeling rubbish the next day. I wouldnt say anxiety is a big problem though. It's more like my brain won't shut down like i'm physically unable to sleep. hard to describe. Whenever i do sleep i wake up in the middle of the night.

I take acetaminophen (paracetamol), it's Tylenol is the US; 1gram puts me to sleep.
You can try this:

""Dr. Amy Yasko has suggested a list of supplements that can help to calm excitotoxicity. These include GABA, theanine, magnesium, taurine, grape seed extract, pycnogenol, progesterone, Valerian root, and jujube. She is also coming out with a Glutamate/GABA spray in the future, that will combine some of these supplements."

Gaba and 5htp are popular you might wanna try.
Have a look at this discussion.
http://forums.aboutmecfs.org/showthread ... ine-surges

Also, are you sure the sports you are doing is not too much? Overtraining prevents you to sleep.

[alicewoolf]

My pleasure Annie, I'm no expert but have picked up quite a few things from the OHC along the way, so please feel free to PM me if you'd like further info!
alicex

[CS1]

"Alexandra Barton" :

Ive spoken to her on my early days of research, shes very helpful. I hope she has taken on board the Amygdala hypothesis.


"OHC on both nutrition and pyschology" :

Ive been in touch with the Alex Howard- hes great and very helpful. Best to find a reasonably priced coach who knows the approaches and utilise their skills to help you. I have!


"Actually there is nothing 'out there' that I'm really drawn too right now" :

Wait till the Ashoks Accelerator comes out!


"A friend is having Skype sessions with Grace Jones of faster eft, so if she" :

As with all these techniques, especially EFT you can do too much digging. Some EFT may be useful around some of the main issues (with a coach ) and then you can apply the Accelerator on your beliefs.



If you look at all these posts they are very negative and not surprisingly so as people are going around in circles- I feel that it is VERY important to get a coach ( a gupta coach possibly ) for guidance so you get in a positive frame of mind of ABSOLUTE knowingness and BELIEF about the techniques as well as watching the Ashoks DVDs.



Have a good one
CS

[alicewoolf]

CS1 I don't agree that these posts are negative. What's negative about looking for answers for recovery????
different things work for different people. The most well I've been was when I was doing the Joshi detox and lots of meditation. As far as I know Alex Barton does not mention the amagydla. A complete change of diet was what her body needed.

[CS1]

What's negative about looking for answers for recovery????


I agree to an extent, be intuitive.



I have a lot of faith in the upcoming Accelerator as it should help to break down the underlying stress patterns and could well be the "missing link"

Speak soon

CS


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