Loosing motivation

[Gattone]

I found that after some problems in my family that really brought me down my motivation fell down and my depression is more than ever, just can't believe in anything that can cure me, i also have hormaonal and metabolic issues that trigger my amigdala...Anyone has some advice ? i 've never been that low before

[neil25]

im sorry to hear this, please don't lose motivation i've been in your same position were all here for support. All you need to beleive is that there are people who have recovered from CFS before and its all possible. This is a fact and i keep this deep in my brain probably the only thing keeping me alive. stick with ashoks program however long it takes, it might be 6 months or it might be 3 years but u will get there.

[annie]

I am so sorry you are having such a horrible time. I don't know if it's any consolation but i think we all go through it at times, it is such a hard condition to deal with. Doing the Gupta programme we believe that the amygdala is the problem but there are so many other suggestions as to what might be causing all our symptoms that we, well I, get confused and scared, "what is really wrong with me'. A thought to be stopped but very insideous and insistant.
Try to keep going with the programme, hard though it must seem at the moment, and come back and let us know how you are doing. Lots of people who care here, you aren't alone.

[CS1]

Yep we have all been low - perhaps you need to work on whatever is holding you back?

This is what I am doing..as well as keeping with the programme,

re watching the videos may help motivation..


Regards
CS

[Gattone]

Thanks for the support, yes cs1 there are so many emotional issues to deal with, i'm triyng to do eft, my biggest problem now is that my family treats me really bad, i think the underliyng problem is that in my country cfs simply not exists,no one believes you,it's considered a severe psichiatric condition or simple laziness...or both conditions

[CS1]

[quote="Gattone"]Thanks for the support, yes cs1 there are so many emotional issues to deal with, i'm triyng to do eft, my biggest problem now is that my family treats me really bad, i think the underliyng problem is that in my country cfs simply not exists,no one believes you,it's considered a severe psichiatric condition or simple laziness...or both conditions [/quote]



Yeah other therapies may help for the deeper issues.

I think you have to be conisitent with the AR programme to get stress response down alot before dealing with these deeper issues via other methods and CONTINUING WITH THE GUPTA AR programme whislt releasing your traumas.

It could just be simply that you can visulise the issues/traumas which you feel are holding you back and resolving these in your mind.





Regards
CS

[Emergo]

Gattone,

I've been in a similar situation. Read you do EFT; this worked miracles for me! Ate you doing this with the help of a practitioner or by yourself? My experience is that it works better if you have regular sessions with a therapist to keep you going or deal with the BIG obstacles.

Can I be so bold to ask what country you live in?

Best,
Emergo

[Gattone]

i live in italy, i use eft alone , it made me absolutely nothing maybe i'll try with a coach

[CS1]

[quote="Gattone"]i live in italy, i use eft alone , it made me absolutely nothing maybe i'll try with a coach[/quote]



I think you will need to spend some time ( upto 6months or sooner ) on the AR programme to reduce the stress response and then other therapies may help to RESOLVE traumas.





Regards
CS

[Emergo]

CS might be right. I did have times where dealing with past issues took me away from doing the AR properly.

However, I have also had times when I was glad to do EFT alongside AR as I truly felt that resolving emotional issues also calmed the amygdala.

If EFT did nothing for you, it might indeed be a good idea to focus on ART for 6 months and see what happens. Then you might tackle remaining emotional issues with EFT after that.

One final remark; a lot have people have said before that EFT did nothing for them, but in most cases this is due to not aiming at the issues properly. I think having a good therapist might make a BIG difference. Maybe you should seek some advice or a therapist on the official EFT forum. You seem to have good knowledge of English, and there are some good therapist that work by phone or MSN or the likes.

[neil25]

i am interested in trying eft myself, if it doesnt work then fair enough. but there is evidence of people being cured from it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BUNdQII ... re=related

[Gattone]

i did ar for 6 months, there are many people cured with eft anyway
http://www.efthealingcentre.com/index.php
http://www.bodymindhealing.co.uk/sasha.html
, i think i should try it with a therapist,it's a little hard to find someone good here and trained in m.e., taht's why i tried by myself

[CS1]

From my own person experience the Stress response needs to be reduced significantly before any other therapy will help with deeper issues.

The therapist i have found is a professional and is very educated about anxiety - I would suggest that if you are going to go down this route you do so with a professional.


Although I will be seeing this person, I will continue with the MAIN CORE of recovery using the Gupta Approach.



Regards
CS

[Emergo]

I also use EFT and ART alongside eachother. In MY humble opinion, they make eachother stronger and work better. Some of my anxiety is caused by past emotional experiences and ART does only subside them when they are there. With EFT I go to the core of the issue and take it away, thereby making it effective that the fear does not reappear/ not needing ART on it.

However, whilst doing this, ART is magnificent to KEEP calm (as EFT does not work miracles overnight in general for a complex thing as ME/CFS).

I also believe that a part of the anxiety/ stress with ME is 'just' a pattern we learned, as Ashok says. In this case, ART is more effective than EFT as we break the pattern immediately.

Again; it's the combination that works for me. But I must emphasize that I could not have reached the results with EFT without a therapist.

[loop]

I actually think the stop technique and EFT are working in similar ways,

You notice a problem, symptom, negative emotion, you 'stop ,stop, stop' or 'tap' tap' tap', then you see yourself in perfect health, or in EFT terms you ' deeply love and accept yourself'. I'm finding they're working brilliantly alonside each other.

I think I read on here that someone had said that Ashok thought that EFT was also similar to the soften and flow technique. I can see this too as one becomes aware of a problem as energy or sensation then dissolves it through attention and creating a flow of energy in a similar way to the stimulation of the meridians in EFT is causing a softening and a flow of energy also.