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dealing with crises.

Postby annie » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:47 pm

At the moment a member of my family is critically ill, in a coma, it is complicated as none of the tests are showing the cause of this. however the outcome is very bleak. This is all a preamble to wondering what is the most skillful way of dealing with the genuine emotions i am feeling at the moment. i am sad and scared and angry, all natural emotions in the circumstances, but what does the amygdala think?
there have been many times when i noticed i was just thinking habitual negative thoughts, then to swing into action with the programme was right and felt productive. this is different. i don't want to have a major dip, that would not help anyone, i just feel at sea with it all.
any suggestions gratefully received.
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby Sylvia » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:26 pm

I would like to sit down next to you and hold your hand.

Dips come unbidden, to fear a dip, what can you do to avoid a dip at this time, well that can't really control a dip. If we could do that we wouldn't have any right? Up down for years yes?

Best to focus on God and prayer and holding on to those close to you.

The techniques you have, and you'll have them as you navigate your way through this.

Be easy on yourself, the world goes on whether you dip or not. Love and compassion is something to keep on giving and recieving dip or no dip.

In Kindness,
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby efly » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:15 pm

Annie,
Im so sorry to hear this.Its a very difficult situation for you and your family stressful even when well.As Sylvia says you have the tools ...use them,protect yourself. Try not to get locked into the ''fear ''of the other persons situation.
All the Best
Healing vibes to you and your family member.
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby annie » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:35 am

Thank you so much for your kindness, it really helps a lot. Unlocks some more tears, but good ones, softening in response to generous hearts.
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby CS1 » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:02 pm

[quote="annie"]At the moment a member of my family is critically ill, in a coma, it is complicated as none of the tests are showing the cause of this. however the outcome is very bleak. This is all a preamble to wondering what is the most skillful way of dealing with the genuine emotions i am feeling at the moment. i am sad and scared and angry, all natural emotions in the circumstances, but what does the amygdala think?
there have been many times when i noticed i was just thinking habitual negative thoughts, then to swing into action with the programme was right and felt productive. this is different. i don't want to have a major dip, that would not help anyone, i just feel at sea with it all.
any suggestions gratefully received.[/quote]




Dear annie

Have you thought about seeking additonal support ie a therapist to help with the Gupta programme?




Regards
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby damask-rose » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:28 am

Annie, I'm very sorry to hear about your troubles.

My father died while I was doing the amygdala retraining, and I just had to go with the flow of all the emotions and so on. I got very sick but I realised that I had to go through it and would be able to pick up on my training again afterwards.

My best wishes to you and I hope things turn out well.

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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby spring » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:27 pm

Any other hints from anyone re getting through a family crisis would be great.

My Dad died two nights ago.

I have redoubled my efforts to do the program regularly, even if I can't do it for every negative thought because of all the people around. But can feel the adrenaline coursing through my muscles today even with my best efforts yesterday.

I'm trying not to get afraid but I must admit today I am feeling so.

Amongst all the grief I feel very happy that I am able to be part of our family gathering and make it to his funeral. One of my biggest fears when I was bed-ridden was that I would loose my Dad and not be able to even get to the local chapel to be with him, let alone get to his funeral.

The other joy I have is the relief and happiness he got from seeing me proceed so far on the path to recovery.

My thoughts are with you Annie, and I'm sorry to hear you lost your father while doing the retraining damask-rose.
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby annie » Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:39 pm

oh spring, i am so sorry about your father's death. as you say it is wonderful that you are able to be part of the family, to give and receive support at this difficult time. i am so glad he saw you well on the way to recovery. great credit to you in your commitment to the programme.
i think it was henry james who said, 'sorrow comes in great waves', i experience this to be so true as i expect you do too.
i think we just have to do the best we can gupta wise, as damask wisely said, we can pick it up after the immediate shock and grief. i'm experiencing worse symptoms when i try to curb my feelings at the moment, i do forget to breath more often too, must be careful about that.
caring thoughts from me spring, be gentle with yourself.
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby damask-rose » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:03 am

Yes, I felt happy as well to know that my father was pleased that I was getting better. In fact I pledged to him after he'd died that I would do everything I could to get completely well, because I knew that was what he would most want for me. It turned out to be a huge impetus in the end to committing myself to the programme. And I felt more connected to him, because I was doing something for him.

I'm really sorry to hear of your great loss, spring. The 'great waves of sorrow' is a good way to describe it and there's nothing for it but to go through it.

Wishing you all support in this difficult time.

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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby *Emerald* » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:26 am

oh thank heavens for you wonderful people..

Annie, my aunty suddenly took ill on tuesday and was in a coma
by the evening. On thursday evening we were told not to expect
her to last the night and all day friday we awaited the call to say
she had lost her fight. She passed away at 4pm friday.

Im shocked, angry, started suffering immediate chest, neck and
arm pain - and im in pieces today. I had a very upsetting morning
fearing i was having a heart attack or would if i couldnt calm down.
i was feeling palpitations and dizziness too.
I lay on the bed and listened to the Visualisation and then to the
gupta medi. i managed to sleep and feel a little calmer now, even
tho im feeling fragile.

Im so pleased to come here and find others who find trauma affects
them too - not that i want anyone else to suffer, but i feel relieved
that im not alone and not going mad !!!

Spring and Damask, im terribly sorry to hear of your loss. My thoughts
are with you both

Annie, my thoughts are also with you, hope your relative shows
improvement xx
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby spring » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:06 pm

Emerald I am so sorry to hear of your loss.

My Dad's funeral was two days ago and I got through it, with a break of two hours in the middle of the wake, where I went and did S&F through three! times in a row and just rested. When I went back to the wake I was able to cope again.

Yesterday, when it was all over and family and friends had left, was horrible mentally and emotionally as you would expect but I was ok physically, I have no big physical repercussions from the days of full on stress, grief and action.

Through-out I kept up my Stops, in fact did more than usual and did more S&F. Of course there were hours on the day of the funeral when I didn't do anything.

I have found at other times that increasing Stops has an instant affect over the next fews days for me and it seemed to do so through this situation too.

I renewed my efforts three weeks ago with the whole Gupta Programme, watching the videos through again and re-committing myself to a good Stops routine. It has really paid off and I'm sure helped me get through this horrible week better than I would have. It also means that I am now able to do what I feel is a strong Stop routine in my head when I can't get away to do the full routine and I think that is really paying off.

Of course this is only the beginning of learning to live without my Dad....

[quote="emerald"]Im shocked, angry, started suffering immediate chest, neck and
arm pain - and im in pieces today. I had a very upsetting morning
fearing i was having a heart attack or would if i couldnt calm down.
i was feeling palpitations and dizziness too.
I lay on the bed and listened to the Visualisation and then to the
gupta medi. i managed to sleep and feel a little calmer now, even
tho im feeling fragile. [/quote]

Emerald this and some of my other 'sensitive' symptoms came back with a vengeance in the days from when Dad died up to the funeral. I used lots of S&F and constant Stops which helped especially my chest tightness, palpitations and all those scary things.

I was very scared about what the effects of the situation would be on the CFS and kind of resigned myself to a big dip and set-back after the funeral.

After the first day of gathering with family I stayed home for the next two days prior to the funeral and basically did nothing but rested and S&F and lots of Stops. It was very hard to not be part of that pre-funeral period, I had to let go being any part of the organisation (hard for the oldest in the family!) but I balanced that frustration with thankfulness I was well enough to be part of anything at all. My brothers and sisters would check in with me every now and then to see if I was happy with the arrangements so far and that helped me not feel too left out.

I also have to accept missing seeing many family visiting from far away by missing those two days and a big chunk in the middle of the wake. That's something I need to come to terms with yet.

Overall though, I have got through ok so I hope my story can alleviate some fear for people in this situation. The feeling of surging adrenaline, the rush back of symptoms, the fear of those symptoms and the medium term consequences and the fear of facing the funeral were all horrible but lots of S&F helped calm the immediate reaction and I'm sure the extra Stops paid off too as time progressed. (My mind was racing too much to do S&F properly but I found my body calmed itself down anyway by just listening to Ashok's calm voice and occasionally pulling my thoughts back from elsewhere. I usually did it two times in a row each time).

I also listened to some of the DVD programme on dips and motivation and that helped me stay in the rhythm. Gupta metioned situations where the adrenaline cycle is in full swing which helped me understand what was happening and therefore calm it down.

I also visualised a lot some vague time in a few weeks where I would be ok.

All the best to all who are dealing with a crisis, you will get through.
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby annie » Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:53 pm

Emerald, i am so, so sorry about your aunt's death. it must have been a great shock for you, it is no wonder at all that you felt what you did, the body responding in the only way it knew for so long, it sounds as though you are on the right path already listening to the c.d., what a blessing that is.
Spring, your account of the last few days is so inspiring and moving, so helpful to those of us in a similar situation, it should be framed as a blueprint as how to cope. i do hope, Emerald, that it helped you to negotiate the next few days, with as much compassion and gentleness as possible.
It is so hard not to rush in and try to be all things to all people, that is what i am having to learn again and again in this illness, and especially at this time. we are still in a vigil, awaiting more specialists reports tomorrow.
this site is very special, such kindness, understanding and real wisdom.
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Re: dealing with crises.

Postby java » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:43 am

I just wanted to send my thoughts to you all. I feel for your pain and wish I could do something. It makes me realize how many people have so much to deal with every day. I guess the comfort is knowing that we are not alone with our trials in this world, and that there are people thinking of us and sending us love all the time, as I do with you now. Please do whatever works best to bring peace into your heart. Java.
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