making a full recovery

[CS1]

Youll start to feel more relaxed.

This what has worked for me:

1)Gupta STOPS and relaxations /breathing/visualisation
2)Therapist for CORE ISSUES- hypnosis, eft, emdr whilst continuing with Gupta techniqiues
3) relaxation cds, laughter, music anything enagaging and fun






Regards
CS

[annie]

thank you so much c.s for sharing all your findings with us. i am so glad you are doing so very well, an inspiration!
if it's not too private could you let us know how you got to your core issue? is it one or several, specific or general? i'm not asking what it/ they are obviously, but if it were say..... abandonment, would it be a specific moment of that that is re-activated causing our friend the amygdala to rev up, or just the general feeling? the same with self-worth or not coping etc.?not sure if this is clear, but it does seem crucial to your recovery. any hints most welcome.

[CS1]

thank you so much c.s for sharing all your findings with us. i am so glad you are doing so very well, an inspiration!
if it's not too private could you let us know how you got to your core issue? is it one or several, specific or general? i'm not asking what it/ they are obviously, but if it were say..... abandonment, would it be a specific moment of that that is re-activated causing our friend the amygdala to rev up, or just the general feeling? the same with self-worth or not coping etc.?not sure if this is clear, but it does seem crucial to your recovery. any hints most welcome.





MY core issues revolved around my childhood and some unhappy times that my parents had.

Powerlessness - FREEZING couldnt fight or flight!!!
loss of faith
LONLINESS



Once you get past these issues and continue to reduce stress levels and introduce music, laughter, interests etc - the Gupta Approach really starts to WORK alongside Nutrition and exercise!!!!!





Regards
CS

[annie]

thank you c.s for sharing that, very generous of you. helpful to know what level it is on. i hope you continue to prosper and thrive.

[CS1]

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[niaholt]

Wont the Mitochondria in the heart and other tissues be boosted once you get the hyper methylation problem solved....then the cells would get more oxygen. It takes time to get it working again.

[neil25]

thanks cs for sharing your story, all the things you have listed is what i have been doing in the last 3 months, i follow gupta meditation cd daily, do my own yoga/meditation. I have also changed my diet drastically to cut out dairy, wheat and refined sugar plus basically cutting out anything unhealthy. I have also tried eft therapy. I take a lot of vitamins as well.

Why is it i don't feel im getting physically better? i'm not as stressed as i was about things. am i getting parasympathetic is the question?

[CS1]

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[billoddie]

I too am using hypnosis/nlp as well as the gupta...and it is definately making a big difference. Gupta on its own was really clearing up my fatigue, but my anxiety/depression went crazy. Long term depression (which I have had), leads to changes in the brain, notably an enlarging of the amygdala which becomes dominant over the (shrinking) hippocampus. The hyp/nlp is really helping me to bring awareness to negative programs coming from the mind...before i thought i was fairly positive. I still must do gupta...if i miss a few days, the cruelling fatigue starts to crush back in. both together is much more effective. For those who struggle to do it because you fear it will fail...just do it and have no stake in ANY outcome. have no goal about what should happen, expect nothing. Just do the process and let the result show up...it just happens. I also take small amounts of dexamphetamine, but again, if i ignore gupta, the fatigue will just crush the dex into nothing. As we know...cfs signals CANNOT be ignored and no drug/supplement will erase them. Gupta does...just do it and dont care about a result.

[neil25]

ok fair enough, i did give gupta a good try but it made me really sucicidal i actually thought i was going to jump in front of a bus. i know meditation does work it's just the problem of doing it, im already extremely fatigued and finding the strength to do that is just so hard. things started to get better for me once i stopped worrying about having to do gupta every minute of the day and just living my life, like socialising with freinds, watching tv, playing video games, reading, walking, basically doing all the things i enjoy. I really don't think gupta can give a cure, an example of this is i bet if you stopped doing gupta for couple of days ur symptoms would come back. if what ashok's says that the brain gets rewired then why would have to continue doing the gupta, im still not convinced that cfs is entirely pyschological the xmrv sounds more realistic for a cause. Once people reliase this they would stop chasing false hope. yeah there is evidence yoga helps bring energy and reduce pain but this is the same for a healthy person. It's basically another form of treatement like a good diet but it doesnt provide a cure just management.

[CS1]

Continue with Gupta techniques and anything else which helps with CORE issues ie Hypnotherapy, NLP,EFT etc. From my observation, the Core issues is a MALADAPTIVE stress response - the more we lower this STRESS RESPONSE the more we can detox and heal and vice versa.



Regards
CS

[annie]

very wise advice c.s. hope it is still going well for you. do you have any experience of the optimum health clinic, i have their literature and video, but am not sure. i am what is termed as 'severe"!!

[niaholt]

Cs,
I am absolutley convinced the Amygdala is MALADAPTIVE. I still believe Ashoks theory....it has shut down the parasymapthetic detox function message. As a result every bug has been then given open slather to invade our bodies...bugs like XMRV then attache to our cortisol receptors.....I think in some of us with severe doses of CFS we need other modalities as well.

[CS1]

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[neil25]

A mesage to niaholt, There saying that xmrv is contracted through the blood it wouldn't be a bug then as you refered to it. I was wondering is there strong evidence to suggest that the parasymapthetic detox function message is shut down? is there any articles you can post about this? i was interested in learning more about it as i don't know much in the area.