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Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby sharonanne » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:55 am

I first learned about the amygdala in counseling. The second time, just recently on a counseling website. The third time, I overheard of "retraining" from another patient, while at physical therapy. By the third time, I started believing what the universe was trying to teach me. I asked the last person to tell me about the Gupta Programme she was doing. I've just purchased it; I am now waiting for it to come.

May I introduce myself first? I am a 52 year old woman, first dx'd with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (15 years ago) - then Fibromyalgia (10 years) , finally Rheumatoid Arthritis (7 years) plus Sjogrens (recently). All with similar symptoms, all severe at this point in time. I am a wife (30+ years) and mother of grown children.

My mother had all the illnesses above, in addition to manic depression (Bipolar). My father was a gentle - nurturing man and a very kind father, but a functioning alcoholic, he had severe Post Traumatic Distress Disorder from WWII. So none of us kids wished to upset him. With his drinking, he'd drive himself home drunk. My mother would yell at him, telling him she'd leave him without taking me. I was a victim of mother neglect and extreme sibling abuse (of all sorts).

I had several friends, but they would complain that I was far too sensitive. I could not hang out with them into the night. I needed to be in bed literally by 9 pm then - which none of them would believe. As I grew older, I was active in gymnastics, but had a terrible fall - which involved a neck injury. After that, I could not tolerate kids horsing around, bumping me or slapping me on the shoulder. In fact I hated to be startled - it was literally painful. Does anyone else have this problem? :?:

To this day, my own kids and husband think it's funny to startle me (so easily). I get angry and they tease me that I am making too much out of it. It affects my relationship with my spouse, as I deal with chronic pain. I am better in the mornings, but by 3pm, I am a mess. I can't come within 3 ft of another person - fearing they will touch me. I do take Neurontin and Cymbalta, to keep me sane. I am up to the maximum dose for the Neurontin, my insurance allows (800 mg 3 x day), which barely does enough. I no longer can sleep on my own, I must take Ambien to keep asleep.

My husband yells at me, in frustration, when I cannot function. He insists it's all me, as if I am faking. Logically he knows I am not, but he feels at times, he "one-man band" holding down a small business and our household together. This is NOT true! I keep the books, the inventory and do all the ordering from home! When I crash - I crash and burn; sometimes to the point that I don't think I can continue living. Gupta's explanation in an email was very comforting.

My husband claims he doesn't yell at me, but he does. I have one daughter that's the same, but she's like him on steroids, when she doesn't get her way. We've gone through counseling, but they can be very charming, insisting it's just me; I am far too sensitive. I can't deal with it anymore, I recently moved my husbands things into the spare room. I receive small sum of disability, but could not be able to support myself on my own - yet I am living on my very last nerve. This is why I purchased the programme.

Does anyone else have a similar extreme "startle" response? :?:

Warmly,
Sharon Anne

P.S. This is my first post, with my intro, I don't plan on being as lengthy with future posts.
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby Chronicfatiguetreatments » Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:30 pm

sharonanne wrote:Does anyone else have a similar extreme "startle" response? :?:


I can relate to this. It came on when i first got sick. For me gupta doesnt really help with my cfs symptoms, but i does help with stuff like the startle response, relaxation, and insomnia.
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby neil25 » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:00 pm

this is the same with me, it helps calm me down but i suppose gupta would help calm down healthy people its just they don't notice symtpoms when there body is calm. my actual physical symptoms like my headache, dizzyness, extreme tiredness don't change that much through gupta, yeah they improve a little this is probably cause my body is calm but i still can't work at the moment. i think everyone is stressed due to the physical symptoms then these affect our mood which make us depressed. it all stems from the physical symptoms this is what stresses me out if i didnt have pain in my body my stress would go.
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby niaholt » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:35 pm

I can relate to you totally...childhood etc. The Amygdala and adrenal hormones work hand in glove. I think you have an adrenal issue. By 3pm you maybe running out of cortisol. Most CFS people have adrenal issues. You can get a saliva test done to check cortisol hormone levels.....Hormone support saves my life. I think some of us have been set up for life from our childhoods....literally holding our breaths.....I know about the bully sibling !!! They say now that the families of Vietnam Vets have PTSD, not just the servicemen. Some our bodies are functioning on emergency alert in an unconscious way. The meditations are great for calming the body down, especially Soften and Flow. Learn to breathe low and slow. ...it helps so much.
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby efly » Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:03 pm

Hi Sharonanne,
If you have a look at Ashoks Medical paper on his website..you can see how the startled response makes sense when you understand the mechanism of whats going on in our bodies.
Im the best Ive ever been on Ashoks programme,I have more control of my body,The pain has gone,chestpain gone, dizziness gone, migraines gone, Sleeps much better...The dips are reducing in length[one of my dips was 10 months in bed].Just feel more normal. ITs taking a long time for me, ...but I can honestly say ''I dont know what I would have done with out this programme''.It takes work and effort...and I assure you I could be a lot more diligent with it.
Good Luck with it.
All the best
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby Graham » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:30 pm

Funny you should mention the startle response... I have it too. I've often had girlfriends remark that I jumped when they touched me while I wasn't expecting it. Plenty of people have told me that I'm "too sensitive". It hadn't occurred to me that this could be linked to the CFS; but yes, it is a common thread for me too.
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby Jj85 » Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:45 pm

Yeah, I've always been that guy that completely overreacted to fire alarms or scary scenes in movies. Just another thing that correlates to Gupta's theory, I guess. I've also noticed that my response to this stuff--loud noises, heated arguments, etc etc--is much worse when my symptoms are worse than when they're better (which also makes sense, if it's true that when you're sick, your amygdala is on higher alert).

So I think everyone here would at least agree that Gupta can help with an important side of the illness. For me, his techniques actually do reduce symptoms (for example, my migraines tend to subside a bit when I relax), even if for a lot of people Gupta's just good for stress reduction or sleeping. I guess the lesson, as with everything CFS-related, is to keep an open mind and stay optimistic, but don't count on this being some automatic cure (even if, in my opinion at least, it's very helpful).
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby billoddie » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:03 pm

had (and still do to a point) a shocking startle response. Fear just lived inside me, and any little noise/conflict etc startled it into a massive internal physical assault. That why cfs people are often so bloody grumpy. We are just on edge all the time Every bit of internal space is "taken up"...there is nowhere left to go. And so that tiny tiny little provocation is the straw that breaks the camels back.
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Re: Does anyone else have an extreme "startle" response?

Postby elisabeth » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:35 pm

I used to have an extreme startle response but the book Hope and Help for your Nerves along with plenty of good self care (baths, regular meals, self-hypnosis, nature, etc.) has healed me of this. You can get better, too. :)
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