New Gupta e-mail with 3 hour seminar on DVD

[annie]

yes, i'm in the u.k. such fast service, i know!
i have watched half of it so far. i am so glad that i got it. it has re-inspired me with the a.t training and is also answering some of my questions. ashok comes across as the really nice guy we all think him to be (he has put on a little weight and it suits him!).
it worried me a bit just how long the people were left standing when they were doing the a.t. exercise and there were a lot of questions. some people looked tired, and i was thinking,'oh dear, poor things", that says more about me than the seminar though!
i'm aware that CS and Damask Rose were there, and maybe others who frequent the site. it must have been very good to be there. i am so glad they filmed it, even though it is not a very professional job it does show us what went on.
will post again if anything more to say when i have watched the rest of it.
i hope everyone has the e-mail now and that it travels speedily to you all.

[CS1]

"Don't get me wrong I do believe the gupta programme has improved many lives for people with cfs. However to think it is going to provide a cure is absolutley crazy it's comparable to thinking serious neurological conditions like MS can be cured too with the power of the mind and meditation. CFS is a severe illness I still dont believe the gupta can get me back to my previous health this is merely impossible.

Sorry about negativity on here, I just hate to see so many people becoming obessed with gupta being the cure when it clearly isnt. the people who have got better still have to do the techniques daily and live a healthy lifestyle. I doubt I could go out and drink 6 pints of beer like i used to and do 7 hours study plus go to the gym in the same day and feel releatively fine next the day. This is what i could do previously and feel ok, i think if i did that now i would be in bed for next 2 -3 days. lets be honest here guys theres still a long way to go to find a cure."




I was out every weekend for many years and was a party animal - drinking 10 pints a night, studying and socialising!

Gupta will take you upto 80 % perhaps alongside some nutritional changes etc.

Gupta/ relaxation techniques/ core issues/ postive affirmations/ challenging/ self developments/interests/ EXPOSURE EXPOSURE!

The dificulty is the length of time it takes could take 1 year and more !

Then the dificult part begins ie Self development and easing yourself into life!!






Regards
CS

[niaholt]

Totally agree with CS....Gupta is just part of the key to getting well....lowering the stress to heal. This alone might help many as I personally know who have had success.

However Gupta cant cure the dreadful infections of my GUT revealed thru Metametrix tests. Gupta cant kill my friends GUT problems...sick for 32 yrs...... blastocystis homonous, Helicobacterpylori, 3 kinds of parasites ( only one kind is usually found) high level candida plus numerous other bugs all revealed thru Metmetrix.

All her DRS MRIs CATs scans, stool tests found nothing altho she is only 95 lb ... husband told she was dying....take her to shrink on the way out. There she lay on Yoga mat on his floor. One week later she gets her results and everything changes....suddenly lots of DRS are apologizing. Only a series of anti biotics and probiotics can heal her and me. In this day and age it is difficult to understand that a biopsy of my friends stomach does not reveal helico bacterpylori yet her stool test reveals it. !!!!

Learning Gupta is paramount to recovery... one central feature, because why did we get this way in the first place.... an over stimulated amygdala that set the ball rolling for the rest of the body partially shutting down the parasympathetic that detoxes the body.

[Sylvia]

Still waiting on my DVD. How long do you think it takes from UK to USA? 8 days not long enough?

[annie]

poor you sylvia, it took 15 days recently when i sent a parcel to a friend in the u.s from the u.k. i think it worth the wait. as i said previously it is not the professional job of the original course, but that doesn't stop the impact it has. i can think of a few questions i would have asked had i been there, but many were answered.
small point, but i started noticing the breathing patterns of the audience, many of them were doing very fast chest breathing, i wish ashok stressed better breathing patterns more.
let us know what you think when it arrives. hope it is soon!

[neil25]

Yeah i get the fact that everyone experienced serious stress before getting ill but how can this soley be the cause of cfs. If it was just about everyone on the bloody planet would get cfs. Lets be honest everyone experiences stress and emotional problems at somepoint in their life. surely genetics must play some part.

I felt like my cfs kind of came on out with my control. About a year ago i noticed my immune system was pretty weak. To put it in perspecitve i used to take vitamins such as magnesium, thyroid supplements, Zinc ect and eat pretty healthy. However I still found myself getting the flu quite easily, it was very odd it was like even if i ate healthy flu like symptoms still came on. the other symptoms were not present but i just knew deep down in my gut i had a weak immune system which i couldn't understand why. I was very happy before i got cfs. I've been raking my brain and it makes me think that i was born with a weakened immune system and it is only 24 years down the line through the envrionment it has got worse.

Another question i was curious about was the extent to which people clame gupta programme is the cure? if there are people out there who believe they are cured by gupta. are they back to their previous state of health. By that I mean can they do normal physical activity such as running in the gym and not experience a relapse the day after. I do find my energy is improved after doing meditation but it is nowhere near a cure for me, because as soon i stop the meditation or over do my physical acitivity im back into the cfs symptoms. Also i experience chronic pain is this completly gone with gupta? again i find when i do meditation my pain is less but being honest it is still there all the time even if it is mild.

I would love to hear from someone who can work full time like they used to after using gupta. please if there is can that person contact me?

[Graham]

Yeah i get the fact that everyone experienced serious stress before getting ill but how can this soley be the cause of cfs. If it was just about everyone on the bloody planet would get cfs just about everyone get serious stress at some point in there lives. genetics plays a big part in cfs i believe not stress.

Why doesn't everyone get cancer, diabetes, the flu, MS, bipolar disorder, etc etc. Some people are more susceptible than others, and yes that's where genetics comes in. Perhaps nobody has pinpointed a single sole cause because there isn't one; we're too complex a biological machine for that. I think you have to look at it holistically.

Cheers, Graham
http://cfs-survivors.org/

[neil25]

I just feel people are brain washed into thinking that gupta somehow is the cure or they are hanging onto the smallest glimpse of hope because there is nothing else. If genetics does play a part you can't exactly reverse them they are written into your dna. Meaning that gupta and other treatements can only mask the symptoms but the main cause is still in the body.

I would love to hear of someone who clames they are cured and gets refreshed sleep and doesnt wake up like a bus hit them, and does not experience the extreme fatigue and pain anymore. Please send me a message if you are out there.

Hi Graham just an observation from your blog it seems like many you too are obessing with what things made you ill. This is impossible to really know what it is. Let the past go meditation is about focusing on the right now and not the 100 causes of what put you into cfs. Plus you seem obessed with finding something which provide you a miracle improvement in your health. I think the best thing for cfs is to live your life not waste energy on these things. you are pretty lucky i wud say from readin your blog you sound a lot better physically than others as you can do acting class ect. I've tried to start doin classes but my energy is just too low it would be impossible right now to do it.

Sorry i don't mean to sound offending at all in my message. I apologise if you are it is merely an observation.

[CS1]

Gupta has it spot on - im testament to it.
Now that Im improving Im adding other things to make me more Parasympathetic namely ; eft, hypnosis, self dev, exposure, challenging symptoms - Im hoping this will be enough to help the body detox itself - if it isnt I'll have to add some detox strategies later.



Regards
CS

[neil25]

Hi CS1 because you said that you are a testament to gupta, I was wondering how recovered you are? can you work part time or full time? how is your energy? what kind of physical activity do you do? are you mainly symptom free?

I did try gupta but found it only helped a little with my energy. the other symptoms like my horrible dizziness, pain, mouth ulcers, food sensitivities were still present. I also still woke up feeling like a wreck every morning even after doing gupta for 2 months. It seemed that gupta tempoarily improved my symptoms but it's like the cfs was still present in my body because if i overdid it I was still a wreck.

I still havent heard of anyone who has returned to their previous state of health using gupta programme. If there is anyone out there please can you send a message on this thread I would love to hear from you it might provide me some motivation to try the programme again.

[damask-rose]

Well, I haven't completely got back to normal, but you asked about exhaustion and pain, and for me, both of those have gone completely. I didn't get severe pain, just muscle soreness, although my exhaustion was extreme. I can walk long distances now without getting delayed reactions any more. In fact that exercise makes me feel livelier. Fluey symptoms and sore throat are gone. I sleep a lot better, though still wake up too early, but I wake up feeling refreshed. I feel relaxed and calm most of the time.

I still get anxious a lot and I'm still a bit weak emotionally, but these things are improving all the time.

I don't know what the answer is about our genes and all that, but I know that doing this STOP thing has giving me my life back!

[Sylvia]

*********** I Got the DVD Yay!! ****************

The best part of it for me was the news that Ashok is working on setting up a forum with specific guidelines that would make it an uplifting support group. Either you are there to help others, or you are there to be helped, but no negative flamers. A 100% supportive enviornment for retrainers.

And I gotta commend his energy/performance level. I imagine being in front of a CFS audience can really suck the energy out of a room yes?

The dvd is totally worth the money to me. I'm glad I have it.

[Sylvia]

neil25 why would I help you? Me a pathetic brainwashed individual. All one needs to do is read all the posts you have made over the 6 months you have been here. Over 400 right? Seems like you have made a preponderance of negative posts. Gee, that is a lot. I don't come here so often anymore, and I don't know why you still do. Seems like such a waste of precious energy.

[loop]

Personally I dig the balance of experiences and opinions on this board, I like the fact it's a discussion board. I think there's a need to know that this technique doesn't work for everyone.

[CS1]

Im Improving on it and I know i will get better on it!!!

So Im sticking to it!!!


Regards
CS