Just purchased..can anyone help boost my confidence?

[lanky_manky]

Hi everyone. Im new here. Ive just purchased the gupta programme (live in the UK), after much thought and searching the net. Ive seen the introductory material and it all makes sense, even identifying myself as someone Ashok could be describing personally!
Its weird, and im sure the training is aimed at getting to the bottom of this..but ive tried positive thinking and when i go for a 10 minute walk and then feel weak, shaky, fluey, tired etc..it really gets me down. I know i should wait for the programme and give it chance..i does make sense!..but i fear i have this hurdle to get over before i have even started.
Im sure ive been where you all have..wits end..struggling to see how it will go etc. reading all of your happy success stories is encouraging. I guess ive lost my confidence and get tired at keeping my spirits up. Ive had all the weird symptoms, imbalance,twitches,fatigue,fog,dizzyness,sore glands etc etc...
I do hope i can start getting back to normal. I dont mean my old 13k cycle a day, weigh training and huge social life just yet...but being able to have a 'normal' day where i can walk and feel fine would be nice

Cheers, oh..my name is Dave

[kenvj]

Hi Dave, welcome to the forum. There's a lot of stuff here you could read. I'm afraid this forum has gone quiet lately, probably due to Ashok starting his own forum.
Anyway hope you improve, most people here did improve on Ashok's program
Cheers Ken

[*Emerald*]

HI Dave,

Keep on with the AR prog. Its made a huge difference to my life.
it takes time but is worth the effort..

Ken, where can i find Ashok`s forum?

Hope the others dont leave this forum, its a lovely friendly place
to be when you feel isolated and need cheering up

[niaholt]

Stay with this program, I know people who were in bed 13 yrs and 10 yrs who are now recovered. Dont go at it hammar and tongs....keep it simple as he says or you will stress about it.

I dont like Guptas new forum....it looks unfriendly....this one is so easy to use.

[*Emerald*]

i cant find the forum Neil, please can i have a link?

[niaholt]

Here is the Forum
http://www.guptaprogramme.com/forum/default.asp?group=2

[kenvj]

Well I had a look at the Gupta Forum but not too impressed with it - its a bit restrictive about what you can talk about. I reckon a forum should be open.

[neil25]

I use the gupta programme every now and again now. I didn't find it really helped with my symptoms im not bed bound but still experience all the awful symptoms when i over do it. Gupta helped me with anxeity but not much more.

[niaholt]

I think it is a shame that Ashok has made it so restrictive. I think posting other stuff has helped a lot of us here go up the rung of the ladder, to new sites, to strengthen us in our resolve to get better at what we are trying to achieve.....retraining the Amygdala. Since starting the program, I have read widely into all different kinds of therapies that has supported Ashoks theories. I would like to feel free to list them when needed. i posted there today.....

[kenvj]

Hi Nia, had a look at your post on the Gupta Forum, don't know why but I'm a bit reluctant to post there. Anyway I just wondered if you had tried have 3 glasses of Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar health drink a day, that really keeps the BP down.

[niaholt]

Thanks Ken,
My high BP is adrenaline based......I wonder would it work for it. I will give it a try.

[Graham]

Its weird, and im sure the training is aimed at getting to the bottom of this..but ive tried positive thinking and when i go for a 10 minute walk and then feel weak, shaky, fluey, tired etc..it really gets me down. I know i should wait for the programme and give it chance..i does make sense!..but i fear i have this hurdle to get over before i have even started.

Hi Dave!

Welcome! I'd be happy to boost your confidence. I've just watched Session 4 for the second time, to remind myself to stick at it. I find support from other sufferers very, very helpful. I set up a blog to track my progress, as I find that feedback from others not only encourages me to keep blogging, it also encourages me to stick to the program! Do whatever you need to do to overcome your internal fears and/or resistance to sticking at it.

Your symptoms will go away as you let your body rest and recover, once the programme has turned down your tendency to be stuck in fight-or-flight mode. Let go of the expectation that you'll feel better after doing the techniques; in my experience, I don't. I feel better after a decent sleep where I haven't been running on adrenaline all night. Skip the 10 minute walk. Stop doing anything that makes you feel ill; that's your body saying that it's unhappy. Listen to it. You have the rest of your life to exercise once your health is better. Don't eat junk, and you'll survive just fine with no exercise.

It's not about "positive thinking", it's about interrupting a chemical process in your brain to release your body from constant stress. The fear you're experiencing is just part of that chemical process. It's unpleasant, but it's normal. Follow the program anyway. Telling people about your fear usually lessens it, so feel free to post here or on a blog about how you really feel. Talk to me on skype if you like. Anything that lessens your emotional stress is likely to help. I'm 3 months into the program and I'm recovering slowly; but most importantly I finally have answers to what is going on in my body that make sense to me.

Above all, don't give up! You will get there. Coming to terms with the fact that it will take some time is part of the journey. Keep in touch!

Cheers,
Graham
http://cfs-survivors.org/blog

[CS1]

I have started to post on the site to!

I think I understand why Ashok is being so restrictive as its easy to get confused.

The AR programme really does work to rewire /calm things down but in my case i need other things to help:

1) AR techniques
2) CORE issues via a coach
3) Self Development


I want to understand the psychology behind it - Im at a stage now where i have no fear at last...its just a matter of time now )


Regards
CS

[*Emerald*]

How are things with you Dave?

[lanky_manky]

Hey guys. Thnaks for asking how im getting on. I must admit, i have been having some better days. I struggled to define what a better day meant as im far from being 'my old self'. This is quite hard i find...becuase i now class a good day as one in which i have been worse doing the same activities. I know its probably unwise to keep focussing on good/bad days but i need something to keep me positive.

One thing you guys might be able to help me with is ignoring symptoms. I have been using the stop technique alot. And, this may be why ive been having better days. My anxiety has reduced anyway. In the first months i found even speaking to people made me feel panic attacks coming on. Anyway, now i try to do things i onced enjoyed..liked walking in the park on a sunny day. However, i find it hard ignoring my muscle weakness, fatigue etc..or even turning it positive. I do the stop technique and try to distract myself, but its quite hard. Im quite strong willed and could push myself throgh it and keep walking but im at the stage where i dont want to go backwards. What would you guys reccomend?

I must admit, i keep finding myself thinking 'actually.there isnt enything damaged in your body..its your brain which needs confidence reintroduced'. It is interesting reading comments by people who are putting themselves in situations to almost test the amygdala. I too am trying this, but very slowly!

I still get down about it. Seeing things like people running by. This time last year i was training for my annual 10k run. Ohwell..

Cheers
Dave