how does it work

[anon125]

what do i have to do?
any genuine success stories?

[niaholt]

Go to www.cfsrecovery.com There is a free download where he explains.....Yes there are many who have go better and many much improved. Gupta has his own forum now.

[anon125]

guptas forum is not likely to be unbiased.
and his free videos are long and boring and rambling.

someone must know what i have to do with his program.

remember he has no medical training but chooses harley street as an address.
harley street is famous for doctors. maybe he chooses to mislead people by using that address.

[Jj85]

Your concerns are legitimate. The treatment seems bizarre, is novel, and all that stuff. Further, it's hard to believe that our symptoms aren't caused by a virus.

But the thing is, with this stuff, you have to be willing to try. You have nothing to lose by not trying. I can't say that it was necessarily Gupta that has helped me recover back to 95-100, but it is undoubtedly the case that his program offered me a good deal of relief.

His website describes his hypothesis in pretty good detail. Personally, I found it intuitive and elegant. Granted, much of what he says is conjecture, but everything he says is also possible--that is, science does not actually contradict any of his ideas. What I am absolutely sure of is that, for me at least, Gupta describes the pattern of my symptoms perfectly. I'm not saying his SOLUTION is perfect. There might be a better way of combatting the vicious circle he talks about. But I can't think of any other hypothesis that could better capture how my illness continued on. I always had a feeling that all of my troubles were caused by stress, and by the stress caused by actually being stressed, and so on.

At the very least, science has confirmed, time and again, that the way we think about our illness can have a profound impact on the course of the illness itself--whether it's through meditation, faith in God, etc etc. This is the main intuition behind the Gupta program, so even if the specifics of his theory turn out to be quackery, you owe it to yourself to see if it works.

[niaholt]

We have heard all the stories before about maybe Ashok is misleading people. For those of us who have been around his program for a looong time now, we know him to be the most kindest person caring human being being.

Speaking for a lot of CFS people, who have spent a small fortune in getting well, the purchase of his program for $200 is a minuscule amount after what we have spent over 20 some years. When he teaches you what is the core of the problem, it is much easier to go and address that situation instead of throwing a myraid of pills down your neck with little or no relief. Be open to his ideas. He spent a lot of years researching this hypothesis.

I did not for one minute think his download was boring and rambling. When I heard it I could not believe he was talking about ME and could not wait to begin the program. So what he has had no medical training......those who have had it have not cured us.....some have even harmed us. If you are ready to take a different direction in healing go for this programme.

[niaholt]

Just read this new brain research where the DR recommended the Gupta program to calm the brain. http://www.aboutmecfs.org/News/BrainProteomeMar10.aspx

[annie]

that is such a good link, nia, that is the closest i have ever felt to what could be wrong with me....thank you so much for posting.

big personal crises taking up all my energy and more at the moment, so it's good to have something solid to look at.

anon.......it's up to you. if you want to decide to suspend all your doubts (we all have them!) the gupta programme, can't do you any harm, and with some application and a pinch of luck it may be very valuable to you. they do return the money promptly if you aren't satisfied, i know that.

[anon125]

they do return the money promptly if you aren't satisfied, i know that.

how do you KNOW?

Also so far nobody has written what is involved in this method.

thanks all

[annie]

i know they give the money back, because a friend who is very ill, found she could not manage the programme, as she could not read nor watch dvd's
no one will explain the whole thing to you, it takes up too much space and energy. that is why you can try for yourself.
i wouldn't bother if you feel so bad about it all. shame but it obviously isn't for everyone.

[*Emerald*]

I agree with Annie, Anon
I really wouldnt bother buying the AR prog.

You dont know much about it but say Ashok may be
misleading people (he really isnt, he is a genuine guy)
and you thought the free videos were boring. Its alot of
money to spend on something you find dull.

2 yrs ago i was mainly bedridden. All i did each day was
the school run, and then home to bed. I couldnt cook
the kids tea daily and we either lived on take outs that
my friend brought up for us, or my daughter microwaved
ready meals
The house was cleaned as and when - sometimes never
from one month to the next. I showered once or twice a month
if i could summon the energy, and never took a bath. Just
breathing took all of my energy. When my friend sent a link
for Ashok`s website, something about it made me believe this
was the treatment for me. I dont know why. id not had the
finances to try other treatments yet this one felt different.
I was so ill when i started the AR, and didnt know how i would
have the energy to commit to it - but i did and thank heavens
i did. I hadnt any doubts that it would work for me.

Within a few weeks of starting AR, i started walking the dog
daily. Only a few yards - but more than i could previously
manage. In a yr of using AR i was cooking the kids meals
every day - cooking from scratch that is, not ready meals
zapped in the micro. I had also taken the kids on holiday on
my own ( i never used to go anywhere on my own incase i
felt ill and couldnt get home) I stopped suffering night terrors and
insomnia and would wake up and find my head felt `normal`
Even tho i couldnt remember what normal was!!!

In a few weeks i will be coming into my 2nd yr of using AR.
The panic and anxiety symptoms are for the most part non
existent (that was one part of the illness that previously kept
me housebound when i did feel up to getting fresh air. At one
point i was unable to go into the garden alone)

Last week i drove a five hour round trip thru 3 countys on my own.
I NEVER imagined id ever drive over a distance 2 yrs ago, let alone
drive it on my own.

On the downside, im not symptom free yet but i have been ill 14 yrs
with m.e and before i got m.e i was ill for 13 yrs after getting epstein barr.
Im 41 now and got ill at 15 yrs old - so i have a lot of recovering to do.
What is two or so yrs compared to my adult life time?

I have a better quality of life, as do my kids. I no longer feel that
life is passing me by, i no longer feel that im existing instead of
living. Sadly i dont feel strong enough to work again yet, but im
ever hopeful the next few yrs will change that.

Anyone who commits to the AR programme, and sticks at it on
the good and desperately bad days will find relief from their worst
symptoms over time. I have come so far in 2 yrs, and im absolutely
positive the next two will bring better health for me. And if they
dont, well my life is 100% better than it was when i was house and bed
bound anyway

keep smiling x

[anon125]

i only saw his life story in the videos, and here i just get more life stories.

so far nobody says exactly what i have to do.

watch dvds?

TM?

[CS1]

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Regards
CS

[Graham]

Also so far nobody has written what is involved in this method.

The Gupta Programme is built around an NLP-based thought-stopping technique to use whenever you have negative thoughts about symptoms. You stand up, say "Stop-Stop-Stop", take a step back, recite a self-coaching mantra, choose a different path, reinforce your choice of health over unhappiness, and then distract yourself. Do this every time you have a negative thought about the illness. Later in the program, it broadens out to doing this whenever you have a negative thought about anything in life.

The programme addresses emotions via meditation: alternate nostril breathing, a guided meditation for dealing with negative emotions, and a guided visualisation of a positive future with good health. He recommends doing the meditation at least twice a day.

If it sounds ridiculous, that's because this description is out-of-context. The pack includes a 123-page workbook including worksheets, 4 DVD's with about 12 hours of information, floor map, and a meditation CD. It's really a complete stress-management kit specific to CFS sufferers. People are probably reluctant to answer the question "what is the method?" because the DVD's go to great lengths to teach it in a thorough, yet gentle and encouraging way, and Ashok has obviously put a great deal of time, effort, and expense into it. A 5-line summary really doesn't do it justice.


Cheers,
Graham

[alicewoolf]

Niaholt, I had a look at the link you posted on the science behind M.E.

http://www.aboutmecfs.org/News/BrainProteomeMar10.aspx

and sent it to my family and friends so that they finally see that this a very real illness with a very real cause. For me it's vindication of sorts after years of being told that it's all in my mind, or that I'm simply depressed. thank you.
Alice