Art Of Living Course - Testimonials

[Archangel]

[quote="niaholt"]I am beginning to think the AOL maybe too much for some of us in recovery to achieve. It is hard for the "normals" so we maybe should not do so much of it especially the Kriya....just do half for some time and work up? Emergo and I both crashed.......maybe it was the 6 day committment.[/quote]

I crashed too, after 6 days. Since then I do it every other day, and I look forward to it every time. When I did it every day, after the 3rd I really did not feel like it...

[Recovery Soon]

How long does it take to do?

[niaholt]

I went for 3 hrs for the first 2 nights then the following 2 days for 4hrs then the next 3 nights for 3hrs each. Too much every day.

[Archangel]

[quote="niaholt"]I went for 3 hrs for the first 2 nights then the following 2 days for 4hrs then the next 3 nights for 3hrs each. Too much every day.[/quote]

Recovery Soon,

I think that Nia talks about the AOL course, which is several days long. After completing the course, you will know two breathing exercises: the short kriya, and the long kriya. The short one can be done at home, it is maybe 20 minutes. The long kriya is done in AOL gettogethers, it is about an hour long.

Both are pretty intense, and one feels amazing afterwards. When talking about "crashing", I meant that I crashed after doing the short kriya at home for 6 consecutive days. I was actually in a stressful situation at work too, so that probably contributed. But doing it every other day feels just right.

Also, the gettogethers for the long kriya are very nice. Here we have a potluck dinner too afterwards, some socializing, etc.

[Emergo]

Archangel and niaholt both give a god idea of the kriya at home and the full course lengthwise.

I find it very nice to read that others have the same experience as I've had, because I was already thinking that "it was me again" .

I now go about the kriya at home every other day or - when not feeling to great - once every three days. I also do the yoga exercises, but not on a kriya day. The succes is in the long run, I have been told, so the key thing is to find a routine that works for you.

Despite the dips, I still believe this is a thing that all of us can use in our way to health. If you like doing the S&F/ meditation part of the ARP, this is something for you.

[Mr Raba]

It was the most life transforming experience I had. It made me very tired though. But my teachers kept on recommending to do it everyday.

Crashed after the 1st home Krya (had sex that day, causes me to crash). But kept on doing the Krya(mistake). Felt very badly for pushing. Did push for about 7 days on and off. Stopped.

Looking back I should let my body recover from a crash before forcing things. I think I had new teachers (nice though). Because they kept on saying. Everyday, do not skip, no matter what...do not stop

Thank you so much for telling me I can do it every other day or less. Beause thAt is what my body felt like doing. Not every day and all the reps. The Bhasrika was what got me tired. All those reps. Even on the first day.

But now I will do about half of the reps and abut every other day.

And yes, once you do it. You feel soooooo good at times.

I only felt good for about 6hours at a time though. Then it passes. Is that the way it is supposed to be?

[Mr Raba]

It was the most life transforming experience I had. It made me very tired though. But my teachers kept on recommending to do it everyday.

Crashed after the 1st home Krya (had sex that day, causes me to crash). But kept on doing the Krya(mistake). Felt very badly for pushing. Did push for about 7 days on and off. Stopped.

Looking back I should let my body recover from a crash before forcing things. I think I had new teachers (nice though). Because they kept on saying. Everyday, do not skip, no matter what...do not stop

Thank you so much for telling me I can do it every other day or less. Beause thAt is what my body felt like doing. Not every day and all the reps. The Bhasrika was what got me tired. All those reps. Even on the first day.

But now I will do about half of the reps and abut every other day.

And yes, once you do it. You feel soooooo good at times.

I only felt good for about 6hours at a time though. Then it passes. Is that the way it is supposed to be?

[Mr Raba]

It was the most life transforming experience I had. It made me very tired though. But my teachers kept on recommending to do it everyday.

Crashed after the 1st home Krya (had sex that day, causes me to crash). But kept on doing the Krya(mistake). Felt very badly for pushing. Did push for about 7 days on and off. Stopped.

Looking back I should let my body recover from a crash before forcing things. I think I had new teachers (nice though). Because they kept on saying. Everyday, do not skip, no matter what...do not stop

Thank you so much for telling me I can do it every other day or less. Beause thAt is what my body felt like doing. Not every day and all the reps. The Bhasrika was what got me tired. All those reps. Even on the first day.

But now I will do about half of the reps and abut every other day.

And yes, once you do it. You feel soooooo good at times.

I only felt good for about 6hours at a time though. Then it passes. Is that the way it is supposed to be?

[Archangel]

[quote="Mr Raba"]

Thank you so much for telling me I can do it every other day or less. Beause thAt is what my body felt like doing. Not every day and all the reps. The Bhasrika was what got me tired. All those reps. Even on the first day.

But now I will do about half of the reps and abut every other day.

And yes, once you do it. You feel soooooo good at times.

I only felt good for about 6hours at a time though. Then it passes. Is that the way it is supposed to be?[/quote]

Yeah, the brain gets oxygenated all the way, but it passes for me too.

One of my teachers told me that if I do it 42 days in a row, some very profound healing will take place afterwards. It would be interesting to experience that, but it will take a while to work up to that level.

[Emergo]

Yeah, I was told to about the 40 (or 42) day period. Looking back and with all the experiences of "us", I think it's reasonable to state that - when not recovered fully from CFS - it's best to NOT do it every day and extend the interval accordingly to how you feel. So if you do it every other day, than use a 2 x 40 = 80 day period.

On the other hand; why not just forget about X days? A lot of cynics have problems with the 6 month period Ashok talks about. Who cares what amount of days it takes? What matters - I think - is that you respect your body and possibilities and work with that.

When Ashok told me about the 6 months, all I heard was the possibility to heal. When I was doing the AoL, all I registered was it would do some profound healing.

To end this mail, I'd like to quote my AoL teacher, who said: "Don't work on will power, but with love. The real secret is to keep going so find a pace that works for you, otherwise you'll stop."

[valerie]

I agree with you entirely Emergo. Although 6 months sounds a long time, it's not, and it can put pressure on those people who are coming up to the 6 months and possibly not seeing obvious signs of improvement.

With respect, unfortunately some people are so used to popping a pill for every ailment and finding quick relief. GAR isn't like that and I feel sorry when Ashok comes under fire from those folk who, because they haven't shown signs of cure, think that the fault lies with Ashok.

The important thing for me, and what a revelation, was to understand the cause of my fatigue and I can identify completely with the explanation Ashok gives. Knowing the cause is halfway towards cure. Not knowing the cause and going through kinds of supplements and numerous therapies is frustrating to say the least, especially when sometimes you can obtain improvement only to regress later on as Ashok explains can happen.

[niaholt]

Ditto Valerie. I have given up thinking about a 6 month deadline because I believe the searching for answers to CFS is over an now I just keep plodding along hoping for more improvement. After 10 months I still feel positive about the experience which has brought me great spititual physical and mental guidance.
In my personality I have changed and no longer see myself as a victim of this illness....I am a survivor. Yesterday we were coming home from the Gastro doctor who had no aswers for my 3yr pervasive nausea, and instead of feeling depressed about it I said to my husband " I just feel so positive that I am going to get better" I dont need medicine to find the answers any more because I dont think they ever will....

I am just coming out of my dip from doing AOL. Too much for me. Should have listened to my better self. Going out for 6 days straight let alone all the exercises. Over the top

[Emergo]

That's funny... About 3-4 weeks ago, I decided to quit all pills and treatments and just focus on GAR (and EFT, which I think adds a lot to Ashok's programm in my situation). Feels good to not depend on other stuff AND not having to check. Because that's a side effect of pills and stuff; you have to keep track - bodyscan! - to see if and/ or what they are doing.

Suberb new forum look, BTW

[spring]

Yes, after four weeks using the Gupta programme I started cutting down all my supplements (which were the main ones recommended by Dr Sarah Myhill).

Over a month I have cut them down to the point where this week I cut out the main ones completely. I have just cut them a little each few days until I run out of my supply of each one and drop it completely.

The only one I am going to keep is flax oil for its Omega-3.

It's great to not have to think about taking them and managing them and the savings will pay for the Gupta Programme within two months with some to spare :-)

I feel like you niaholt, that my search for relief from CFS is over and that now it is just a steady climb back to full health.

The big difference this time from the times I felt I was getting some improvement from other treatment protocols is that the advances are huge instead of just the minute improvements or often plateaus which I tried to celebrate before.

I feel I have control now and that it is just time until I am fully well. In the meantime I am enjoying my new life at about 30 on the CFS scale compared to 5 - 10 just two months ago.

[Mr Raba]

Are any of you taking whey protein? I think that maybe the protein plus the AOL might create a stronger reaction.

You see I am well enough I can work with some allowances. Yet I react very strongly to the SK. I only do SK i3 consecutive days before it is too much. Then I have to stop for 2 days.

So I am thinkinn about maybe trying 1 day for SK and two of rest.