Fully recovered?

[dmbaken]

Hi all

Just thought I would update on my wife MA. She is going great. There has been nothing that we wanted to do over the last 4-5 days that she has not been able to do because she has ME. She is even considering taking up canoe polo.

However, she still has a brief (20-30m) afternoon rest some days. She still has migraines (less than before) but these could well be becasue of hormone issues as a result of a hysterectomy.

Given all this I can understand how Ashok puts the recovered line at 85%. Its really hard when you get to this stage to know what fully recovered is.

Anyway, I hope that this provides encouragement.

Kind regards

Don

[Recovery Soon]

By any objective measure your wife is definitely not fully recovered based on what you have written.

But it is very encouraging to know she has made so much progress with the program, and is now enjoying a life that far exceeds what she was living before she started.

Thanks for sharing. Best of luck for her continued healing.

[Chronicfatiguetreatments]

hey don,
how long has your wife been on the gupta program?

sounds like some pretty good improvements.

[dmbaken]

Recovery Soon - I tend to agree with you but when you go from 5-10% up to 85% the difference between 85% and 100% seems so small. She's also moved from 31ish to 43ish and so it is hard to factor in age changes. Anyway, we are just enjoying our new life so much.

Chronic Fatigue Treatment - MA started on the program at the end of August 08. The change has been dramatic and seems very much like it is here to stay.

KInd regards

Don

[kenvj]

I'm really pleased for her Don and I am also really envious, wish it were me.

[Recovery Soon]

No doubt, Don. Great to hear about the recovery.

[Sylvia]

Tell your wife I am so happy for her.

And don't let her forget any dips she may experience will be overcome, I bet that is the most challenging aspect with such a huge improvement.

Sylvia

[Gattone]

are you kidding recoverysoon? these are amazing results, normal persons rest 30 min in afternoon or much more and have migraine and also have many other haelth issues at age of 43

[cfs_since_1998]

What criteria was used to diagnose your wife?

[Recovery Soon]

Gattone,

Amazing results, yes. Full recovery, no.

Clear?

[dmbaken]

Hi CFS since 1998

As with many people with ME the journey to a dx was a long one. Starting with candida then irritable bowel etc until finally it was decided that it the criteria for ME. NZ is limited in blood test so were not able to get titres on viruses etc. Much of the dx was done by elimination but she did fit the canadian criteria. Is that the sought of anser you wanted. Sorry as usual I am doing this during a short break at work.

Regards

Don

[kenvj]

Gattone - Recovery Soon can only give his own opinion, he is not qualified nor does he speak for anyone else here. All anyone can do is give their own opinion. For me this is as good a recovery as you're likely to get.

[Recovery Soon]

Kenv,

You don't speak for anyone else here either.

I feel pretty qualified to infer that someone who still suffers daily migraines, requires daily naps to get through a day, and follows the term "Fully Recovered" with a question mark, is probably not FULLY recovered, quite yet.

Not so much a logical leap.

As far as your belief that this is "as good a recovery as you're likely to get"... A bit limiting, wouldn't you say?

[kenvj]

Recovery Soon - going by what Don said, the necessity, "on some days" to have a 20 to 30 min rest and having migrains is not necessarily CFS. In fact I would very much doubt that the migrains have anything to do with CFS. A 20 to 30 min rest occasionally is often taken by fully healthy individuals. You simply cannot put every health issue that people have down to CFS. From a point of view actual energy MA appears to be back to normal given that she is a few years older than when she first contracted CFS and also that during those years she went back physically from a lack of activity. From the point of view of reduced physical condition she will probably need some time to get back to full fitness. This growing older is something that you in particular don't seem to take into consideration. You seem to think that for full recovery one should be returned to the perfect health that one once enjoyed some years previously - that is just not going to happen.
The way in which you dismissed Gattone's view and made your view "clear" to him was pendantic to say the least. You are still the perfectionist.

[kenvj]

Referring to the above post it would be interesting to know what other people on the forum would consider to be a full recovery, taking into consideration the physical loss of condition which happens to severely affected people, and also the effect of growing several years older in the process.