lightning process

[niaholt]

Thanks Annie for this. Like you I was petrified to try anything else as EVERYTHING gives me horrendous nausea...3yrs of it. Tried everything to get the liver working....re gluthathione, diets etc. This ladys treatment is very slow.....6 mths before you notice anything. I think I have told you I have a green powder that contains chlorella plus other chelating immune boosting probiotic stuff....it is a very expensive mix a 2 inch bottle is $150 but lasts 2 mths......have to make up a mix in a litre of apple juice goji berries and ginger and let ferment for 2 days. After 2 days I drink 150 ml with the juice /water from the inside of a coconut. (lauric acid a chelator and virus/parasite killer) Plus I just take some homeopathy pills, one kind for only 1 day in the week and the another kind the next week and so on tilll next visit. Then she might change the pills. I am not sick from this mix as it is like food.

I know Ashok said to stop trying to find cures but I am getting too old for living like this. After a year on the program I want to relieve the body of as much pressure now as possible and the program may begin to work faster. I think for some people their methylation pathways are not so blocked, they can take MAX GXL glutathionine the supposedly best on the market, and have wonderful results ...(people I know) I feel I am the train wreck in the tunnel. For them Glutathione is like the snow plough on the front of the train clearing out the tunnel. It is not the total answer though. Getting the Parsymp system to work is the key and toning down the Amygdala. I find getting outside is the big help. I am lucky in a warm country. I have seen movies in cold countries where they would put patients and babies outside in the cold.....not real pleasant but it changes the senses as well as getting fresh air.

[efly]

I read once where Dr Byron Hyde said he couldn't believe all or problems were down to mercury as the levels in our systems WASNT that great compared to others without cfs......BUT maybe the SMALL amounts we do have is also triggering the Amygdala,so lower the levels a little and you help the Amygdala.? OR do lots of AR and the level we do have wont be such a worry .??????
Ps
I took DMSA for 6 months.......made me worse.....bed ridden for 10 months ! Its such a difficult process.. timing is so crucial..when things are done. The next patient on the Neural therapy list apparently will take 2 years to get better...........SO we are ALL so different. Comparisons don't help.
It takes a skilled practitioner to assess what the body can take at the time...and to know what to do next.
GOOD LUCK TO US ALL
Efly

[niaholt]

I totaly agree with you.....have to be guided by someone and not just take something off the net.....your experience with DMSA and mine with Glutathione. I wished I could say I got a lot of negative thoughts but I dont.... So now I just do STOPS anyway ...some have gotten well that way. Nothing to lose

[CS1]

Thanks damask rose for the LP summary - its helped me understand how LP works a little better.

I have taken every vitamin and supplement under the sun and they DID NOT work.I know more about nutrition and detoxification than most nutrtionists and experts!


I think some of the supplements may actually help with detoxification and IMMUNE support but ONLY when your body is in an Parasympathetic state !! Supps will do diddly squat for COGNITIVE function in CFS.


I think the issue is how do we all become more parasympathetic - The theme at Asoks Seminar was to VARY the programme more...So What I think he is trying to say is do the Meditations more, visualisations more, s& f more and STOPS and VARY them all...by bringing our own imaginations into it and to experiment a little..
I think this area may require a little more support - Im considering seeing an Integrative health person who specilises in hypnotherapy (after taking advice from the GUpta coach ) that may actually help with my relaxation/visualisations/my CORE CFS issues and help reinforce the gupta approach.





Regards
CS

[niaholt]

Hi CS,
This is what I am doing now.....Ashoks program being the main core. I want to find ways to enhance it now....try someone who may be able to uncover blocks. I have already beefed up the meditations/vis/ions. I sleep with Ashok in my ear. I had every pill/treatment imagineable and not doing it anymore. I reckon I have spent $100,000 all to no avail

[CS1]

HI niaholt

I started off with Samantha Redgrave : www.redgravehypnotherapy.co.uk ( gupta coach ) consulatations over the phone - shes is great!!!

She was at the Ashok seminar and knows her stuff - I really wanted to see if there was anyone i can see face to face in my local area and she gave me this link : http://www.theopenmindguide.com/me-cfs-therapists

I plan to alternate with someone in my local area and samantha.




Regards
CS

[Recovery Soon]

[quote="dukey"][quote]Chronic fatigue syndrome and Multiple sclerosis. Hypersensitivity to heavy metals has been shown to be a significant factor in CFS and MS. In studies, 70-80% of patients who tested MELISA®-positive to metals improved after removing the offending metal.[/quote]

[quote]The MELISA® Medica Foundation has conducted extensive search on CFS patients. A study involving 930 fatigued patients saw more than half (62 percent) test positive for metal allergy. The majority of those who went on to remove the offending metal reported substantial health improvements.[/quote]

Some people can not rid mercury from their bodies. It normally happens in males (genetics). Exposure for these people is a disaster.[/quote]


I had the MELISA test and scored off the charts on Mercury count and allergy.
I was told by their physician/researcher that I could be assured that amalgam removal and chelation would be the cure, though it might take a few months.

I had the amalgams removed and chelated with DMST for 6 months.
The result....NOTHING.

I wish this misinformation would just stop. Yeah, mercury fillings are less than ideal for anyone, but they are not causing CFS.

Removing them may reduce your toxic load, but to suggest that amalgams are the cause of CFS is either misinformed, ignorant, or willfully deceptive.

I wish people would stop peddling this when their is no scientific basis supporting it.

If you're goal is to give sick people false hope, the go ahead and keep posting how Mercury is the cause of CFS.

And when they wasted their time and money getting all of this done, with no results, they can send you a thank you card.

[Recovery Soon]

[quote="dukey"][quote]Chronic fatigue syndrome and Multiple sclerosis. Hypersensitivity to heavy metals has been shown to be a significant factor in CFS and MS. In studies, 70-80% of patients who tested MELISA®-positive to metals improved after removing the offending metal.[/quote]

[quote]The MELISA® Medica Foundation has conducted extensive search on CFS patients. A study involving 930 fatigued patients saw more than half (62 percent) test positive for metal allergy. The majority of those who went on to remove the offending metal reported substantial health improvements.[/quote]

Some people can not rid mercury from their bodies. It normally happens in males (genetics). Exposure for these people is a disaster.[/quote]


I had the MELISA test and scored off the charts on Mercury count and allergy.
I was told by their physician/researcher that I could be assured that amalgam removal and chelation would cure my CFS over the course of a few months.

I had the amalgams removed and chelated with DMST for 6 months.
The result....NOTHING.

I wish this misinformation would just stop. Yeah, mercury fillings are less than ideal for anyone, but they are not causing CFS.

Removing them may reduce your toxic load, but to suggest that amalgams are the cause of CFS is either misinformed, ignorant, or willfully deceptive.

I wish people would stop peddling this when there is no scientific basis supporting it.

If you're goal is to give sick people false hope, then go ahead and keep posting how Mercury is the cause of CFS.

And once they have wasted their time and money and hope chasing this rainbow, with no results to show for it, they can send you a thank you card.

[Gattone]

[quote="niaholt"]I too have known people who detoxed from mercury and were no better. You have to search for the right person. However my Doc with our illness has sent me to a classical homeopath who does out of the ordinary stuff to detox and says she is the only one who can get it out despite others here making claims and charging big bucks. I have been on the program a year so now I think I need a bit more help to help rid toxin overload.

I stood and watched others get 60% better from mercury detox and refused to believe it. Now they are having lives and I am not. I totally believe Ashok saying our Parasympathetic system is blocked and we cant detox. I dont believe for one minute mercury is the CAUSE of our illness but it is definitely holding us back. Dr. DeMerlier, a CFS researcher from Belgium, just recently made the claim we have too much mercury, nickel and paladium. If Mercury was the total cause, those with amalgum fillings would be ill too.

I dont think this forum is the place to discuss this topic as there is heaps on the net about it. Here is something I got sent this morning by Dr Klinghardt (father of Nerual therapy).http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images ... 5b56bc6d7a

I dont know if many of you know the story about a CFS guy in the US who nearly died a few months back, dementia, collapsed lungs.etc he was taken to a Doc in Arizona who did Neural Therapy and he is a new person....injected daily with homeopathics at key points in the body, killing viruses, mercury detox etc....Doc claimed the problem was sourcing from the Amygdala!!!!! Neural Therapy is usually done with anaesethics. Now there are experiments going on with other patients.

This is one method of attack, but it all gets back to a malfunctioning Amygdala that is causing a breakdown in the bodys detox system. Recently I tried the best form of Glutathionine and thought I would die, clogged up drain pipe with nowhere to dump its toxins. So some of us have bigger toxin loads to carry I believe and need some caustic soda to get our drain pipes going again.....that may mean lots of meditation, and everythig totally calming... plus a little mercury detox on the side. Still believe Ashoks program is the key to the whole issue.

.[/quote]
taking glutathione may be dangerous? i'm on ultrathione from 2 weeks

[neil25]

i was wondering what you mean that taking gluathione is dangerous? i take alpha lipoic acid vitamins these state that they help increase glutathione levels which helps with detoxification. is it dangerous to take this as well then? any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Gattone]

i don't think so i was quoting nia

[niaholt]

Neil,
Not everything suits everyone, just keep doing what you are doing......