Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia

kenvj

Today I have been on the Ashok Gupta Amygdala Retraining course for exactly 2 months and I am absolutely amazed at the progress I have made.
Let me tell you where I have come from - I have had CFS for over 20 years. Five years ago I was diagnosed for the first time, this was when my CFS became extremely severe and I changed to a doctor who actually knew something about it. That 5 years was to be the worst 5 years of my life, for most of the time I was unable to do any jobs and I could walk no more than a hundred yards. On a bad day I would get up, have breakfast and then have to lie down and sleep for an hour or so. After lunch it would be the same story, lie down and sleep again and at the end of my day I would in bed by 9pm. On one such day I even had problems walking from the lounge to the toilet. I occasionally had a small recovery, it never lasted long and I would soon relapse - to push myself even a little would result in extra fatigue the next day. Towards the end of that 5 years I got some help from mega doses of Vitamin C and injections of Vitamin B12, or sub-lingual B12 lozenges when my flesh got tired of the needle.
Then 2 months ago I started on the Gupta Program and I haven't looked back!
Now I never have to sleep during the day, I am alert and able to get on with my life. Both physically and mentally I have improved out of sight. I no longer take mega doses of Vitamin C and no B12 either. I have been able to start again with music, I have started to play keyboards again after a lapse of 12 or more years and have joined a group of like minded people who meet in each others homes to share music. I am back to socialising where earlier I had lost all my friends and aquaintances. I'm getting my life back!
Two days ago we had an emergency. My wife was doing the weekly wash when suddenly we found water gushing out under the laundry door and flooding the kitchen, there had been a problem with the washing machine outlet and it emptied the whole lot onto the floor, it got absolutely every where and into everything. We just had to get stuck in to clean up the mess, had to shift masses of stuff outside and I had to manhandle the washing machine so we could mop up underneath it - I worked my but off, my legs went like rubber but I kept on and an hour after we finished the job I was feeling not too bad again. I had a poor day yesterday (to be expected), but nothing like I would have had after such an event before I started Gupta and I am back on course again today!
I would say that I am at least 50% possibly 60% recovered - and this after only 2 months.
If you any of you decide to give Gupta a go, and its cheap enough, you do have to work at it, its no good just paying it lip-service, you do need to do the work.
http://www.cfsrecovery.com/
Some time ago I read the following about CFS - it was that CFS is caused by stress, made worse by stress and is perpetuated by stress.
What the Gupta progam does is to treat this problem of stress.
Ken

vegasv · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject:

wow ken,
ive been waiting to hear about your results, it sounds like its really helping, im happy to hear that. I might just have to give it a try myself.
Im also having benefits from b12 and antioxidants, but im still pretty sick.
To be honest i was skeptical about the gupta dvds, but you cant really argue with good results.
I hope you continue to improve. post more updates;)

good luck
vanessa

kshort · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject:

its good to hear that someone is actually feeling better. keep it up.
look forward to hear more about it.

kenvj · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject:

Vanessa, once I read Gupta's explanation of the cause of CFS I knew immediately that he had that right - it didn't mean to say his course would work but I gave it a go - and it does work!
Ken

kissaragi · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:59 am Post subject:

i realize you probably cant talk about the actual exercises but does he get you to change your sleep in anyway? Like going to bed much earlier or anything?

Glad its helping you a lot!

nick

parine · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject:

yeah it does sound interesting. I looked it up but i couldnt find any actual examples of what he was having people do. Ive heard people say that it was like hypnosis but different. Alot of people seem to be impressed with it

kenvj · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject:

Hi Kissarangi - no he doesn't get you to change your sleep patterns at all.

Parine - the main technique is unusual - Ashok calls it the main amygdala retraining technique, I will not try to explain it other than to say that it involves Neuro Linguistic Programming. There are also some meditation techniques. There is an lot of other stuff which boils down in some way to psychology. Ashok really knows his stuff and seems to be personally aware of my whole personality and problems, personally I think he is brilliant. The course is extremely professional and well put together - if I were not to improve any more than I have already I would consider it was worth every cent I paid for it.
Hope that helps.
Ken

kissaragi · Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:32 am Post subject:

Thanks kenvj, thats good to know.

kissaragi · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:40 am Post subject:

Just ordered the program, at the very least i think it will help me with my anxiety issues. Even a small improvement would make it worth it.

parine · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:13 am Post subject:

hey kissaragi,

good luck with the program. Ive getting really curious about it now that people are having positive results. Definately try and keep us updated. Im looking forward to seeing how you feel a few months from now.

Flooz · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a good result for you - and perhaps those with CFS induced by stress may benefit from it.

Please remember though, that there are many of us with a physical cause of the CFS, brain injury for example, and being taught how to deal with stress etc may not necessarily help.

Glad the program has helped you though.

jaykay · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject:

i always felt that my stress system was on overdrive since ive gotten cfs. I am really jumpy and simple things stress me out way more than i should be. I could see the gupta program working like cognative behavioral therapy. Sort of training your brain not to go into a stress response.
Maybe if you do this long enough, there could be permanent benefits.

Thanks for you reports ken. It helps

kenvj · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject:

Hi Flooz - CFS is caused by stress, it is made worse by stress, it is perpetuated by stress, and it is very very physical. It is in the physical brain - not in the imagination!
Maybe what you have is not CFS??
Ken

kenvj · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject:

Kisserangi, I am so pleased to hear you have bought the Gupta course. I very much doubt you will regret it - its the best thing that has ever happened to me since I met my wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ken

kissaragi · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:01 am Post subject:

Even gupta isnt saying it can cure everyone flooz, but seeing as its cheap and its helped some people i figure its worth a try.

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia

Two full months on the Gupta Program